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En que configuracion estan estos amplificadores ADD, PROPORCIONAL, INTEGRAL, DER...

yaelgonzalez

@copilot En que configuracion estan estos amplificadores ADD, PROPORCIONAL, INTEGRAL, DERIVATIVO Y SUMADOR

copilot

Para determinar en qué configuración están los amplificadores operacionales ADD, PROPORCIONAL, INTEGRAL, DERIVATIVO y SUMADOR, debemos examinar cómo están conectados sus pines, especialmente los de entrada (-, +) y salida (OUTPUT).

ADD: Este parece estar configurado como un amplificador sumador, ya que el pin $-$ está conectado a una red que incluye resistencias ( $R1$ , $R3$ ) lo cual es típico de un sumador restador. El pin $+$ está conectado a $R2$ de Net 3, posiblemente una referencia de voltaje.
PROPORCIONAL: Este está conectado en Net 6 en su salida (OUTPUT) y el potenciómetro $\text{POT P}$ se conecta al pin $-$, lo cual sugiere que podría estar configurado en un modo proporcional, donde actúa amplificando un factor de proporcionalidad según el potenciómetro.
INTEGRAL: El pin OUTPUT está conectado a $R10$ y al capacitor de $\text{CI}$ , lo cual es típico de un integrador. El pin $-$ está conectado al potenciómetro $\text{POT I}$ , reforzando la idea de que está configurado como amplificador integrador.
DERIVATIVO: El pin $-$ está conectado a $\text{CD}$ y el potenciómetro $\text{POT D}$ , lo que sugiere una configuración derivativa.
SUMADOR: El pin $-$ está conectado a varias resistencias ( $R10$ , $R13$ ), lo que es característico de un amplificador sumador.

Podemos ser más específicos si hay más detalles disponibles sobre cómo están conectados exactamente y los valores de los componentes. ¿Te gustaría que revisemos alguna conexión más detenidamente?

create a high level mermaid block diagram of R6, R10, R3, ADD, R8, GND, Proporci...

yaelgonzalez

@copilot create a high level mermaid block diagram of R6, R10, R3, ADD, R8, GND, Proporcional, R12, Derivativo, C3, CD, Motor+, Setpoint, SUMADOR, R7, Q1, R13, Retroalimentacion, Integral, R5, 12+, R4, R11, DERIVATIVO, C4, R1, R9, POT I, POT P, 12-, CI, R2, INTEGRAL, POT D, ADD, Motor-, PROPORCIONAL, Q2. Include key component's manufacturer part number in each block whenever possible.

copilot

Certainly! Let's create a high-level mermaid block diagram for the listed components. I'll group them logically and include the manufacturer part numbers where applicable. Here's a rough structure to guide the diagram:

Diagram

This block diagram gives a high-level overview of the components and their potential conceptual connections. The operational amplifiers (LM741), potentiometers (PDB181-K420K-103B), and other passive components are grouped by function. If you want more connections or details included, feel free to ask!

yaelgonzalez

copilot

Great! Having established the block diagram structure, we can add more detailed connections or context as needed. Given the components you've listed, the primary focus will be on how these components interact, especially concerning signal flow and power distribution.

For this analog PID controller:

Power Supply and Distribution:
- 12+ and 12- are your main power sources. Connect these to appropriate pins for power amplification and integration tasks.
- The 7805 Voltage Regulator provides a regulated 5V output from the 12V input, supplying power to other critical components.
Signal Pathway:
- Setpoint and Retroalimentacion use potentiometers like POT P and POT I for adjustable signal feedback.
- The operational amplifiers INTEGRAL, PROPORCIONAL, and DERIVATIVO serve as integral parts of the PID control, using feedback from the potentiometers.
Motor Control:
- Transistors Q1 (TIP41BG) and Q2 (TIP42A) manage the power supplied to the Motor+.
- This configuration acts as a simple H-bridge for controlling motor direction and speed.
Capacitors and Resistors:
- Components like R6, R10, R3, R8, R12, and R1 provide necessary biasing or feedback paths for amplifiers.
- Capacitors C3 and C4 help filter noise and stabilize the power supply for delicate operations.

Since we don't have specific details on each connection (such as how the op-amps are used precisely in your PID loop), it would be helpful if you could clarify any specifics or ask about particular interconnections or functions you'd like us to explore further!

If you'd like another layer of detail or exploration regarding component interaction, let me know!

El amplificador SUMADOR en que configuracion esta conectado ya que no veo ningun...

yaelgonzalez

@copilot El amplificador SUMADOR en que configuracion esta conectado ya que no veo ninguna resistencia de retroalimentación

copilot

El amplificador operacional

\text{SUMADOR}

está probablemente configurado como un sumador no inversor. En esta configuración, no necesariamente necesitas una resistencia de retroalimentación externa.

En tu implementación, el

\text{SUMADOR}

tiene las siguientes conexiones:

Entrada no inversora ($+$): $\text{Net 17}$ , que incluye las conexiones a $\text{R11:P2}$ , $\text{R12:P1}$ .
Entrada inversora ($-$): $\text{Net 16}$ , que conecta a $\text{R10:P2}$ , $\text{R9:P2}$ , y $\text{R13:P1}$ .
Salida: $\text{Net 19}$ , que conecta con $\text{Q2:B}$ y $\text{Q1:B}$ .

Para verificar si realmente es un sumador no inversor o tiene otra configuración especial, habría que evaluar un contexto adicional, como otros componentes del circuito que podrían estar configurando el comportamiento del

\text{SUMADOR}

. ¿Quieres ajustar algo en particular sobre esta configuración?

El amplificador SUMADOR en que configuracion esta porque no veo una resistencia ...

yaelgonzalez

@copilot El amplificador SUMADOR en que configuracion esta porque no veo una resistencia de retroalimentacion

copilot

En un amplificador operacional configurado como sumador, la señal de salida es una suma ponderada de múltiples entradas. Normalmente, en una configuración clásica, las resistencias conectadas a las entradas determinan el factor de ponderación.

Para que un amplificador opere como sumador, debe haber una resistencia de retroalimentación que conecte la salida a la entrada inversora. En tu proyecto, no veo una resistencia de retroalimentación explícitamente en el "SUMADOR" que conecta su salida a su entrada inversora.

¿Podrías verificar si tal resistencia está presente o si planeas añadir una? Si no es así, podríamos considerar una configuración virtual o revisar las conexiones para asegurarse de que el amplificador está correctamente configurado en una configuración diferente, como amplificador inversor simple, por ejemplo.

POT D

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Project Name

Analogico/Digital DUDAS

Description

Este es el control PID analógico para un motor de CD

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