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I want to have a ground net for the 220v power lines. Should i use a different G...

@copilot I want to have a ground net for the 220v power lines. Should i use a different GND net that the one used for the low voltage circuits?
1y
In electronic circuit design, it's crucial to differentiate between the grounding practices for different sections of a design, especially when dealing with high voltage (e.g., 220V AC mains) and low voltage (e.g., 5V DC) circuits. This distinction ensures safety, functionality, and adherence to applicable standards. Here are the reasons and recommendations:
Reasons for Separate Ground Planes
  • Safety: The most important reason to keep the AC mains ground separate from the low voltage (LV) ground is safety. Mixing the two can pose significant risks, including electric shock or inadvertently introducing high voltage into low-voltage parts of the circuit, potentially causing damage or even fires.
  • Noise and Interference: High-voltage AC lines can introduce noise into the low voltage DC circuits, especially if the grounds are shared. This can lead to erratic behavior or malfunction of sensitive electronics.
  • Regulatory Compliance: Certain standards and regulations may necessitate the separation of grounds for AC mains and low-voltage circuits. Compliance ensures that the design can be legally and safely deployed in its intended environment.
Recommendations
  • Separate Ground Nets: Design your circuit with distinct ground nets for the 220V AC and low voltage components. In schematic representation and PCB layout, these should be clearly identified as such, for example, AC_GND and DC_GND.
  • Ground Connection: While the AC and DC grounds should be kept separate on the board, they should ideally connect at a single point, typically at the power supply. This practice, known as "single-point grounding," minimizes the risk of ground loops which can introduce interference.
  • Isolated Power Supply: If your design powers the low voltage circuitry from the 220V AC, use an isolated power supply. This ensures that the two grounds are physically separated and prevents high voltage from reaching the low voltage parts of your circuit.
  • Physical Separation: When laying out your PCB, ensure there's a clear physical separation between the high voltage and low voltage sections. Place components and route traces in a way that minimizes any risk of arcing or interference. Using slots or moats in the PCB around high voltage traces can enhance safety.
Additional Safety Features
  • Fusing and Protection: Incorporate appropriate fusing on the AC main input to protect against overcurrent conditions. Also, consider using surge protection devices (SPDs) and/or a Metal Oxide Varistor (MOV) for transient suppression.
  • Clear Labeling: Clearly label the different sections and ground nets on both your schematic and the PCB. This helps in maintenance and avoids confusion during assembly or inspection.
By adhering to these recommendations, you ensure that your design is not only functional but also safe for users and compliant with regulatory standards.
1y
I want to make a power supply circuit using the HLK-20M05? Is anything missing?

@copilot I want to make a power supply circuit using the HLK-20M05? Is anything missing?
1y
To create a functional power supply circuit using the HLK-20M05, let's examine the components and their connections based on the information provided in your project. The HLK-20M05 is a compact switching power supply module that outputs 5V and can supply up to 20W of power, making it suitable for driving many small to medium-sized electronic devices.
Current Configuration
  • HLK-20M05 (PS1): It's already included in your project, with connections to AC mains (AC(L) and AC(N)) and outputs (+VO and -VO).
Required Components and Connections
To ensure safety and reliability, and based on standard practices for using the HLK-20M05, the following components and connections are recommended if they are not already included:
  1. Fusing:
    • Include a fuse on the AC input line for overcurrent protection. If F1 isn't assigned this role, it should be. Connect it in series with the AC(L) line of the HLK-20M05.
  2. EMI Filtering and Varistor:
    • EMI filtering on the AC input is important for reducing electromagnetic interference. This can be accomplished with a combination of capacitors and inductors, but specific components are not listed in your project details.
    • A varistor across the AC input lines (AC(L) and AC(N)) for surge protection is advisable. If Z1 is a metal oxide varistor (MOV), then it's correctly placed for this purpose.
  3. Electrolytic Capacitor on Output:
    • It appears you have C6 (220uF), which is good for smoothing out ripples on the DC output. Ensure it's connected across the +VO and -VO (GND) outputs of the HLK-20M05.
  4. Rectification and Smoothing (If Needed):
    • Since HLK-20M05 provides a DC output, additional rectification isn't required. However, the inclusion of smoothing capacitors, like C6 mentioned before, is necessary.
  5. Load Connections:
    • Ensure that the output (+VO and -VO) of the HLK-20M05 is correctly connected to your circuit's power input nets. In your schematic, +VO should be connected to 5V nets and -VO to GND.
Connections:
  • Connect F1:P1 to AC mains (Live wire preferably), and F1:P2 to PS1:AC(L).
  • Connect AC mains Neutral wire to PS1:AC(N).
  • Connect PS1:+VO to 5V power net.
  • Place C6 with one leg on PS1:+VO and the other on PS1:-VO for output filtering.
  • Ensure PS1:-VO is connected to your project's ground net (GND).
Note:
  • Safety Considerations: The HLK-20M05 module should be enclosed in a suitably rated enclosure to prevent accidental contact with AC mains voltages.
  • Regulatory Compliance: Your stated compliance requirements are RoHS, FCC, CE. Make sure your overall design, including this power supply section, adheres to the appropriate standards and regulations regarding electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) and safety.
Please review and ensure these components and their connections are appropriately integrated into your schematic. If some components or connections are already in place, consider this as a validation of those parts of your design.
1y
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What is the TAB pin in the ASM1117 used for?

@copilot What is the TAB pin in the ASM1117 used for?
1y
The TAB (Tab) pin on the AMS1117 device serves as an additional ground (GND) connection. It is electrically connected to the ground pin of the device (Pin 1: GND). Therefore, when designing circuits or PCB layouts with the AMS1117, it's important to connect the TAB to the ground plane or ground net in your design to ensure proper operation and heat dissipation.
1y
Is there anything missing in my power regulator?
1y
To evaluate the completeness of your power regulator setup with the AMS1117-3.3 (U2 in your project), let's review the essential components and connections based on the usual application of an AMS1117-3.3 and the details you've provided:
  1. Input Capacitor: A capacitor close to the VIN pin (3) of the AMS1117 can help smooth out any input noise and provide a more stable input voltage. The datasheet of similar LDO regulators recommends a value, typically around 10µF. It seems you have not explicitly mentioned an input capacitor for U2.
  2. Output Capacitor: For stability, the AMS1117-3.3 requires an output capacitor. You've provided a capacitor, C1 (10u capacity, connected likely on VOUT), based on general practices and the AMS1117 series requirements, which matches the recommendation to include a capacitor of around 10uF on the output to ensure stability[1].
  3. Ground Connections: Ensure that the GND Pin (1) and the TAB (also connected to GND internally) are properly connected to the ground net in your circuit. It appears you've followed this principle, considering the schematic conventions you've outlined.
  4. Proper Heat Sinking: The AMS1117 can dissipate heat through the TAB. Make sure there's enough copper area on your PCB acting as a heat sink to manage the heat, especially if you're dropping a significant voltage or drawing considerable current.
  5. Decoupling Capacitors on VIN/VOUT for Adjacent ICs: While not part of the AMS1117 directly, ensure that any IC powered by the AMS1117 has its decoupling capacitors close by. This isn't directly related to the AMS1117 but is good practice for stable power supply lines.
Given these points, it seems the critical component potentially missing from your description is the input capacitor on VIN of the AMS1117-3.3 (U2). Including a capacitor close to the input of the AMS1117 is recommended for optimal performance, to act as a buffer, and to smooth the input supply line. Other aspects appear covered based on your description and standard practices.
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AC_L
K4
J9
AC_L
K3
AC_N
AC_GND
AC_N
U1 IO14 - R22
D7
K8
R16
Resistance
1k Ω
R17
Resistance
1k Ω
U1 IO26 - R18
AC_L
AC_GND
Q6
Not Recommended for New Designs
DC_GND
R15
Resistance
1k Ω
Q8
Not Recommended for New Designs
LED8
U1 IO27 - R20
D8
J5
AC_N
AC_GND
5v
J6
5v
AC_GND
K7
LED7
DC_GND
R18
Resistance
1k Ω
R14
Resistance
1k Ω
DC_GND
AC_N
AC_L
Q7
Not Recommended for New Designs
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    A common return path for electric current. Commonly known as ground.
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    Wirelessly connects power nets on schematic. Identical to the net portal, but with a power symbol. Used to organize schematics and separate functional blocks. To wirelessly connect power net portals, give them the same designator. #portal #power
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    A generic fixed resistor for rapid developing circuit topology. Save precious design time by seamlessly add more information to this part (value, footprint, etc.) as it becomes available. Standard resistor values: 1.0Ω 10Ω 100Ω 1.0kΩ 10kΩ 100kΩ 1.0MΩ 1.1Ω 11Ω 110Ω 1.1kΩ 11kΩ 110kΩ 1.1MΩ 1.2Ω 12Ω 120Ω 1.2kΩ 12kΩ 120kΩ 1.2MΩ 1.3Ω 13Ω 130Ω 1.3kΩ 13kΩ 130kΩ 1.3MΩ 1.5Ω 15Ω 150Ω 1.5kΩ 15kΩ 150kΩ 1.5MΩ 1.6Ω 16Ω 160Ω 1.6kΩ 16kΩ 160kΩ 1.6MΩ 1.8Ω 18Ω 180Ω 1.8KΩ 18kΩ 180kΩ 1.8MΩ 2.0Ω 20Ω 200Ω 2.0kΩ 20kΩ 200kΩ 2.0MΩ 2.2Ω 22Ω 220Ω 2.2kΩ 22kΩ 220kΩ 2.2MΩ 2.4Ω 24Ω 240Ω 2.4kΩ 24kΩ 240kΩ 2.4MΩ 2.7Ω 27Ω 270Ω 2.7kΩ 27kΩ 270kΩ 2.7MΩ 3.0Ω 30Ω 300Ω 3.0KΩ 30KΩ 300KΩ 3.0MΩ 3.3Ω 33Ω 330Ω 3.3kΩ 33kΩ 330kΩ 3.3MΩ 3.6Ω 36Ω 360Ω 3.6kΩ 36kΩ 360kΩ 3.6MΩ 3.9Ω 39Ω 390Ω 3.9kΩ 39kΩ 390kΩ 3.9MΩ 4.3Ω 43Ω 430Ω 4.3kΩ 43KΩ 430KΩ 4.3MΩ 4.7Ω 47Ω 470Ω 4.7kΩ 47kΩ 470kΩ 4.7MΩ 5.1Ω 51Ω 510Ω 5.1kΩ 51kΩ 510kΩ 5.1MΩ 5.6Ω 56Ω 560Ω 5.6kΩ 56kΩ 560kΩ 5.6MΩ 6.2Ω 62Ω 620Ω 6.2kΩ 62KΩ 620KΩ 6.2MΩ 6.8Ω 68Ω 680Ω 6.8kΩ 68kΩ 680kΩ 6.8MΩ 7.5Ω 75Ω 750Ω 7.5kΩ 75kΩ 750kΩ 7.5MΩ 8.2Ω 82Ω 820Ω 8.2kΩ 82kΩ 820kΩ 8.2MΩ 9.1Ω 91Ω 910Ω 9.1kΩ 91kΩ 910kΩ 9.1MΩ #generics #CommonPartsLibrary
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powerWizard
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Last updated by cosmoskiller
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Properties

Software
ESP-IDF
Connectivity
WiFi
Wireless Protocol
MQTT
Operating Voltage
5V
Operating Humidity
10 to 90%
Compliance
RoHS, FCC, CE
Operating Temperature Range
-10 to 70 °C
Antenna
PCB Trace
Human Interface
Touchscreen, Buttons
Reliability
20,000 hrs
Life Cycle Expectancy
10 yrs
Form Factor
Small gadget
Number of sensors
1
Number of output relay
4
Domain Application
Consumer Electronics

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