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create a high level mermaid block diagram of SEGA, SEGB, SEGC, SEGD, SEGE, SEGF,...

@copilot create a high level mermaid block diagram of SEGA, SEGB, SEGC, SEGD, SEGE, SEGF, SEGG, SEGDP, outA, outB, outC, outE, outF, outD, outG, outDP, out0. Include key component's manufacturer part number in each block whenever possible.
1y
To create a high-level block diagram in Mermaid syntax, I'll focus on the connections between the LED segment displays (SEGA, SEGB, SEGC, SEGD, SEGE, SEGF, SEGG, SEGDP) and their associated outputs. Each LED segment can be connected to an output from the MAX7219EWG+, which is primarily used for driving LED matrices.
Here's a Mermaid diagram that outlines the connections:

Mermaid


graph TB
    subgraph LED_Segments
        SEGA([SEGA]) --> "|Lt-Pos|"
        SEGB([SEGB]) --> "|Lt-Pos|"
        SEGC([SEGC]) --> "|Lt-Pos|"
        SEGD([SEGD]) --> "|Lt-Pos|"
        SEGE([SEGE]) --> "|Lt-Pos|"
        SEGF([SEGF]) --> "|Lt-Pos|"
        SEGG([SEGG]) --> "|Lt-Pos|"
        SEGDP([SEGDP]) --> "|Lt-Pos|"
    end

    subgraph Outputs
        outA([outA]) ==> SEGA
        outB([outB]) ==> SEGB
        outC([outC]) ==> SEGC
        outD([outD]) ==> SEGD
        outE([outE]) ==> SEGE
        outF([outF]) ==> SEGF
        outG([outG]) ==> SEGG
        outDP([outDP]) ==> SEGDP
    end

    classDef default fill:#ffccff,stroke:#333,stroke-width:2px;

    subgraph MAX7219EWG+$$MAX7219EWG+$$
        direction TB
        Outputs
    end

    style MAX7219EWG+ fill:#ffcccc,stroke:#333,stroke-width:2px;
In this block diagram:
  • The LED segments are represented in the LED_Segments cluster.
  • The outputs controlling each LED segment are in the Outputs cluster.
  • Each output is connected to a corresponding segment.
  • The MAX7219EWG+ is shown as the controller for the outputs.
I hope this visualization is useful! If you want more details or additional components included, let me know.
1y
hi can you help me with regulation of Vin? I will have 12V battery and i will ne...

@copilot hi can you help me with regulation of Vin? I will have 12V battery and i will need 24V for LED strips and 5V for max
11mo
To regulate your voltage from a 12V battery to supply 24V for LED strips and 5V for the MAX7219, you'll need a step-up (boost) converter for the 24V output and a step-down (buck) converter for the 5V output. Here's a general approach:
Step-Up Converter for 24V:
  • Component: DC-DC Boost Converter
  • Functionality: Boost 12V to 24V
  • Connection: Connect the input of the boost converter to the 12V power source, and the output to the LED strips.
Step-Down Converter for 5V:
  • Component: DC-DC Buck Converter
  • Functionality: Step down 12V to 5V
  • Connection: Connect the input of the buck converter to the 12V power source, and the output to supply power to the MAX7219.
Additional Considerations:
  • Current Rating: Ensure the converters can handle the current required by your load.
  • Efficiency: Look for converters with high efficiency to reduce power loss.
  • Heat Dissipation: Consider heat sinks if the regulators are expected to dissipate significant power.
Would you like recommendations for specific converter modules, or do you already have components in mind?
11mo
can you suggest some converters? i was counting that i would need around 4A (for safety 6A) for 24V line
11mo
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i have connected my DYI 7 segment clock and i am wondering how i can select whic...

@copilot i have connected my DYI 7 segment clock and i am wondering how i can select which digit will be light, i need to conect dig0 to the Digit0 Pin_1 1 and to the ground, i was thinking about using mosfet, can you help me with that?
1y
To control which digit of your 7-segment display is illuminated, you can indeed use a MOSFET as a switch. Here's a general suggestion on how you could achieve this:
  1. MOSFET Selection: Choose an N-channel MOSFET, which will allow you to control the connection from the digit cathode to ground.
  2. Basic Connections:
    • Connect the source of the N-channel MOSFET to GND.
    • Connect the drain of the MOSFET to Digit0:Pin_1.
    • Connect dig0:P1 to the gate of the MOSFET.
  3. Control:
    • When you apply a positive voltage to the gate (from a microcontroller like an Arduino), it will turn the MOSFET on, effectively connecting Digit0:Pin_1 to GND.
    • To turn off the digit, you can connect the gate to GND or to a low logic level to switch off the MOSFET.
Here is a simple connection format:
  • Connect MOSFET:Source to GND.
  • Connect MOSFET:Drain to Digit0:Pin_1.
  • Connect dig0:P1 to MOSFET:Gate.
Would you like some suggestions on specific MOSFET parts, or perhaps a further explanation about how to connect the gate to your controlling circuit?
1y
can you check max7219 datasheet to see what control is used on digit pins? I think it is pulled to ground if the digit is used.
1y
The MAX7219 is a popular LED driver for 7-segment displays and dot-matrix displays. According to the typical application circuit and its operation as described in the datasheet, the MAX7219 controls the digits using current sinking at the digit pins.
Here's what typically happens in the MAX7219 with regards to digit control:
  • The MAX7219 uses an internal multiplexer and digit drivers. Each digit pin (DIG_0 to DIG_7) is an open-drain output that sinks current when active.
  • When the MAX7219 enables a digit, it effectively pulls the respective DIG_x pin to ground.
So yes, each digit pin is indeed used to sink current to ground, which is why you're thinking about using a MOSFET for controlling it. However, if you're using the MAX7219, this function is already built into the IC. You shouldn't need an additional MOSFET to control the digits directly if you're driving them with the MAX7219.
Still, if you're planning on manually controlling the anodes/cathodes for some specific reason, the use of a MOSFET as described would allow for manual switching.
Would you like more details on how to use the MAX7219 in your setup, or do you need assistance with something else in your circuit?
1y
i have segments from LED strips, each segment has current about 30mA, can i connect the dig output to the segments ground, or should i use some mosfet or tranzistor, to prevent the max7219 from burning?
1y
The MAX7219 is capable of sourcing up to 40mA per segment input and sinking up to 320mA through the digit drivers. However, it's always good practice to consider the thermal constraints and avoid pushing the IC to its limits.
Since you're using LED strips with a segment current of about 30mA, here are a few considerations:
  1. Direct Connection: If you're only drawing 30mA per segment and not exceeding the total current rating for the entire display, you could, in theory, connect directly. However, keep these factors in mind:
    • Ensure that the total aggregate current doesn't exceed the maximum ratings for power dissipation or total current for the MAX7219.
    • Consider using a current-limiting resistor for each segment to help manage and distribute power.
  2. Using a MOSFET: To reduce stress on the MAX7219, you might consider using N-channel MOSFETs for each digit line, especially since you're working with large LED segments that might approach MAX7219's limits. Here's how you could do that:
    • Gate: Connect the gate of each N-channel MOSFET to the corresponding digit output from the MAX7219 (DIG_0 to DIG_7).
    • Drain: Connect the drain of each MOSFET to the ground connection of your LED strip's segment.
    • Source: Connect the source to ground.
    This setup allows the MAX7219 to control the MOSFET gates, effectively switching the LED segment grounds on and off with lower current requirements from the MAX7219.
This approach delegates the current handling to the MOSFETs, reducing the stress on the MAX7219.
Would you like more assistance in choosing a suitable MOSFET or designing the support circuitry?
1y
can you suggest some mosfets? and is it necesary to connect source to gnd and drain to the - pin of LED strip, or can i exchange that conection?
1y
When using an N-channel MOSFET to switch the ground connection of a load, it's common to connect the source to GND and the drain to the negative terminal of the load. This configuration correctly utilizes the MOSFET's switching characteristics. However, swapping these connections will not work for an N-channel MOSFET, as it will not allow proper control of the load.
For your application, where you're driving LED strips with approximately 30mA per segment, you won't need a particularly high-rated MOSFET, but something with a low gate threshold voltage for logic-level operation would be ideal. Here are a few suitable options:
    • An N-channel MOSFET with a maximum drain current of around 200mA.
    • Suitable for low-power applications and easy to find.
    • Similar to the 2N7000, with a maximum drain current of around 500mA.
    • Can handle more current and is suitable for higher-power demands.
    • This is a logic-level MOSFET that can handle much higher currents, up to 47A.
    • It's overkill for your application but good for more high-current configurations.
Remember to check:
  • Logic-level compatibility, so the MOSFET turns on with a typical 5V logic signal.
  • Drain-source voltage rating, which should exceed your supply voltage for safety.
Always consult the datasheets to ensure the chosen MOSFET can handle your specific application requirements comfortably. Would you need help with anything else?
1y
and can i use some BJT? i have recently bought a set of them (for testing purposes)
1y
Absolutely, you can use BJTs (Bipolar Junction Transistors) to switch the LED segments instead of MOSFETs. An NPN transistor can be used effectively for this purpose. Here's how you can set it up:
  1. Basic Connections:
    • Collector: Connect the collector of the NPN BJT to the negative terminal of the LED segment.
    • Emitter: Connect the emitter to ground (GND).
    • Base: Connect the base to the MAX7219's digit output (DIG_n) through a current-limiting resistor.
  2. Current-Limiting Resistor:
    • The resistor between the MAX7219's output and the base of the BJT is necessary to limit the base current and protect the MAX7219. A typical value might be around 1kΩ, but you can adjust this depending on the specific characteristics of your BJT.
  3. BJT Selection:
    • Any general-purpose NPN transistor should work, provided it can handle the current requirements. Some popular choices include:
These transistors can easily handle the 30mA required by each LED segment.
Connections Recap:
  • Connect BJT:Collector to the negative terminal of the LED segment.
  • Connect BJT:Emitter to GND.
  • Connect BJT:Base to MAX7219’s DIG output through a resistor (e.g., 1kΩ).
Using BJTs can be a straightforward and cost-effective way to handle switching in this project. Would you like guidance on calculating the resistor value or selecting specific BJTs?
1y
should i use some pull-up resistor (4k7) for dig?
1y
For most applications using the MAX7219 to drive digit lines, a pull-up resistor is generally not required. The digit pins on the MAX7219 are designed as open-drain outputs to sink current directly when a particular digit is activated.
Here's why a pull-up might not be necessary or recommended:
  1. Purpose of Digit Pins:
    • The digit (DIG_x) pins on the MAX7219 are intended to directly control the ground side of the connected segments, sinking current when the digit is active.
  2. Use with BJTs:
    • If you're using an NPN BJT to drive the segments, you'll have a base resistor between the MAX7219 output and the BJT's base. This configuration controls the current and protects the MAX7219. No additional pull-up resistor is needed here.
  3. Potential Issues with Pull-Up Resistors:
    • Adding a pull-up resistor could interfere with the intended operation by causing unwanted current paths, leading to unexpected behavior or even overloading the MAX7219 when digit pins are pulled low.
In summary, a pull-up resistor is unnecessary and can potentially cause issues. The intended setup with BJTs and base resistors should be sufficient for controlling your LED strips using the MAX7219's digit outputs.
If you have a specific configuration or concern in mind, feel free to ask for further advice!
1y
@copilot if using more digits, should i use more ULN2803A ICs or is 1 enought?
1y
The ULN2803A is a Darlington transistor array that contains 8 channels, each capable of sinking up to 500mA of current. It is designed to drive loads like relays, lamps, or LED displays.
Here's how to determine whether one ULN2803A is enough for your application:
  1. Number of Digits:
    • If you are driving more than 8 digits, you will need more than one ULN2803A, as each digit will require a separate channel.
  2. Current Handling:
    • Each channel can handle up to 500mA, which is more than enough for a typical 7-segment LED digit (30mA per segment * 8 segments = 240mA total per digit).
    • Ensure the total current handled by the ULN2803A does not exceed its maximum rating of 2.5A across the entire chip.
  3. Project Needs:
    • For a typical setup with multiple digits (up to 8), one ULN2803A should suffice to drive these unless you are exceeding the current or channel limits.
    • If your project requires more than 8 digit control lines, simply use additional ULN2803A ICs as needed.
In summary, for up to 8 digits, assuming each uses a separate driver and does not exceed the current ratings, a single ULN2803A should be adequate. If you go beyond these constraints, add additional ULN2803A ICs.
Do you have a specific setup or number of digits you're working with?
1y
i have conected only segments through ULN2803A, digits will be handled by mosfets or BJTs, or should i use ULN2803A to drive digits also?
1y
If you're using the ULN2803A to drive the segments (A-G and DP) of your 7-segment displays, you already have a robust setup for handling the current requirements of each segment.
For digit control, you have a few options:
  1. Using BJTs or MOSFETs for Digits:
    • This is a common approach for controlling digits, especially since the digit lines are managing the ground connection (sinking current).
    • As previously discussed, you can use N-channel MOSFETs or NPN BJTs to switch each digit on or off by connecting the MOSFET/BJT's drain/collector to the digit pin and the source/emitter to ground.
  2. Using ULN2803A for Digits:
    • This is also a viable solution if you prefer a unified approach or want to simplify your design using only one type of component.
    • The ULN2803A can sink enough current for typical digit operations, and it can support multiple digits if needed.
Considerations:
  • Design Complexity: If you have the transistors available, using them might reduce design complexity by separating segment and digit control.
  • Power Distribution: Ensure that the total current through each ULN2803A does not exceed its ratings. Distributing operations between ULN2803A and transistors can help balance loads.
  • Component Availability: Choose an approach that aligns with the components you have available and your overall design strategy.
Both methods are valid, and it ultimately depends on your preference for design and layout. If you're comfortable using transistors for digit control, you can proceed with that method while keeping the ULN2803A for segments. If you want to consolidate using ULN2803A for both, that approach can work as well.
If you have further questions or need specific schematic guidance, feel free to let me know!
1y
how can i use ULN2803A for driving digits? I plan to use 1 for segments and 1 for digits
1y
Using the ULN2803A to drive the digits of your 7-segment display is a solid approach. Here's how you can set it up:
Connections for Driving Digits with ULN2803A:
  1. Digit Control:
    • Each digit pin (DIG_0 to DIG_7) on the 7-segment display connects to a channel (output) on the second ULN2803A.
    • Connect each ULN2803A output pin (e.g., OUT_1 to OUT_8) to the corresponding digit (anode) of your display.
  2. Inputs from Controller/Driver:
    • Connect the respective control signals from your microcontroller or driver IC (e.g., the MAX7219) to the inputs (IN_1 to IN_8) on the ULN2803A.
    • These signals will turn each digit on or off by pulling them to ground when activated, in effect controlling which digit is displayed.
  3. Common Connections:
    • COM: Connect the COM pin of the ULN2803A to a higher potential (like +5V) if you're using free-wheeling diodes inside the ULN2803A. This is usually more relevant for inductive loads, but not strictly necessary here.
    • GND: Ensure the GND of the ULN2803A is connected to your system ground to complete the circuit.
Steps for Implementation:
  • Control Signals: The control signals from the microcontroller should switch between high and low logic levels, where 'low' activates the ULN2803A output (digit on), and 'high' deactivates it (digit off).
  • Consider Segment Current: Ensure each digit connection's sink current can be safely handled by the ULN2803A and that it matches the required drive for your LED strips.
Summary:
  • Connect ULN2803A outputs (e.g., OUT_1 to OUT_8) to digit anodes.
  • Connect ULN2803A inputs (IN_1 to IN_8) to microcontroller outputs or a driver IC like the MAX7219.
  • Connect the GND of the ULN2803A to your system ground.
This setup can effectively manage the switching of digit lines, ensuring reliable control over which digit is illuminated on your display. If you need help with specific wiring or logic examples, feel free to ask!
1y
is it compatible conection with max7219 digit logic?
1y
Connecting the ULN2803A with the MAX7219 for digit control requires understanding the logic levels and how they interact. Here's how they could be compatible:
Compatibility Considerations:
  1. MAX7219 Digit Logic:
    • The MAX7219 digit pins are open-drain outputs designed to sink current. When a digit is selected, it pulls the corresponding DIG_n line to ground.
  2. ULN2803A Operation:
    • The ULN2803A is also designed to sink current, but it won't be directly useful for interfacing with the MAX7219's digit outputs because both are meant for sinking.
Potential Solutions:
Since both the MAX7219 and the ULN2803A are designed to sink current, and you need to control digit lines (typically requiring sourcing), here are some alternatives:
  1. Use MOSFETs/BJTs for Digit Control:
    • Continue using MOSFETs or BJTs as previously discussed to control the digit lines. The MAX7219's open-drain outputs can drive the base of a BJT or the gate of a MOSFET directly, effectively grounding the digit line when desired.
  2. Interfacing Logic for ULN2803A:
    • If you still wish to use the ULN2803A, you would need additional logic to convert the MAX7219's sinking operation to a sourcing operation for the digit lines, such as using a PNP transistor or P-channel MOSFET paired with the ULN2803A.
  3. Common Cathode Control:
    • If you are utilizing common cathode configurations, ensure that your digit control can effectively provide the necessary sourcing current with an appropriate logic level.
Recommendation:
For a straightforward implementation:
  • Use the MAX7219 to directly drive the digit transistor bases or gates (NPN/BJTs or N-channel MOSFETs). This respects the open-drain nature and simplifies the circuit.
The direct connection of the ULN2803A to the MAX7219 output for digit control isn't feasible without additional components because both devices function primarily as current sinkers. Using transistors remains a practical solution for digit switching in this context.
If you have further questions or need assistance with a specific part of your setup, let me know!
1y
is there any other transistor array that i can use for this purpose? I need 6 to 8 channels
1y
Yes, there are other transistor arrays that you can use to drive the digits in your 7-segment display project. If you're looking for a transistor array that can handle multiple channels and is suitable for sourcing current to the digits (typically needed for common-cathode configurations), here are a few options you might consider:
    • This is a PNP Darlington transistor array, typically used for sourcing current.
    • It offers up to 8 channels and can provide the necessary sourcing current for driving digit lines.
  1. ULN2003A paired with PNP transistors:
    • While the ULN2003A itself is another sinking array with 7 channels, you can pair it with external PNP transistors for sourcing.
    • This modular approach offers flexibility, covering up to 7 channels with each IC.
Using a PNP Darlington Array:
For using a PNP Darlington array like the TD62783APG, you would:
  • Connect the outputs to the positive side of the digit you wish to control.
  • The array will source current when activated by a low signal on the input, suitable for interfacing with digit lines directly.
Make sure to check the specifications of your transistor arrays to ensure they adhere to your current requirements and voltage levels. This setup should simplify your project by utilizing integrated components for driving multiple digit lines without requiring additional discrete components.
Please let me know if you require any further information or guidance!
1y
i plan to use ULN2803A for segments and another 8 channel array to drive digits (to the ground, can be 6 to 8 channels)
1y
For driving the digits to ground using a transistor array, you can indeed use an NPN transistor array similar to the ULN2803A, which is specifically designed to sink current. As you're already using one ULN2803A for driving the LED segments, using another similar NPN array for digits would make the integration straightforward. Here are a few options:
Options for NPN Transistor Arrays:
  1. Another ULN2803A:
    • You can use an additional ULN2803A for digit control. It provides 8 channels capable of sinking current, which suits your need to pull the digit lines to ground.
  2. ULN2003A:
    • This array provides 7 channels. It can be used similarly to the ULN2803A, though it has one less channel.
  3. ULN2064B:
    • This option supports higher currents per channel (up to 1.5A), but it has 4 channels, so you'd need two to cover 8 digits.
Connection Setup:
  • Inputs: Connect the control lines from your microcontroller or driver (like MAX7219) to the respective input pins of the NPN array.
  • Outputs: Connect the outputs of the array (e.g., OUT_1 to OUT_8) directly to the corresponding digit grounds.
  • Common Ground: Ensure the ground of the ULN2803A is connected to the common ground of your circuit.
Using these arrays simplifies your design by maintaining a consistent method for handling both segments and digits through current sinking arrays.
Let me know if you need more specific guidance or a detailed schematic!
1y
how can i use ULN2803A to drive mxa7219 digits?
1y
Driving the digit lines of the MAX7219 directly with a ULN2803A involves careful consideration since both devices are designed for current sinking applications. However, you can use the ULN2803A in conjunction with additional components to control LEDs with higher current requirements while maintaining the basic function of the MAX7219.
Strategy:
The key approach here is to let MAX7219 handle the logic control, and use the ULN2803A to switch higher currents through the digit lines by managing the ground path.
Steps to Use ULN2803A with MAX7219:
  1. Control the ULN2803A via a Current-Sinking Path:
    • Use an inverter to convert the MAX7219's sinking output into a sourcing signal, which can control the ULN2803A.
  2. Component Setup:
    • Use an N-channel MOSFET or NPN transistor to interface each digit line:
      • Connect the gate/base to the output of the MAX7219.
      • The source/emitter connects to ground.
      • The drain/collector connects to the respective input channel of the ULN2803A.
  3. ULN2803A:
    • The ULN2803A output pins will connect to the negative side of each digit line.
    • Ensure each digit line is correctly wired through the ULN2803A so that when the MOSFET/Transistor turns on, it enables a ground path for the respective digit via the ULN2803A.
  4. Power Rails:
    • Connect the common pin (COM) of the ULN2803A to the appropriate positive supply voltage if using internal diodes (not strictly necessary if not managing inductive loads).
Example Configuration:
Suppose you are controlling 8-digit lines. Each comes from the MAX7219's digit outputs DIG0DIG7\text{DIG}_0 - \text{DIG}_7:
  • Attach each MAX7219 digit output to a MOSFET/Transistor gate/base.
  • Collectors/drains connect to ULN2803A inputs.
  • Outputs of ULN2803A then go to the digit grounds.
This setting maintains that the MAX7219 is isolated from the high current path, preventing it from overloading while still controlling your display logic.
If you need clarification on certain steps or a detailed example circuit, feel free to ask!
1y
after measurement i find out that when applied 5V on UNL2803A IN pin there is -12V on OUT pin, so i redesined the segments to have + same (for digit), but i am still wondering how i should turn on digit (to + now) using transistor array preferably
11mo
It sounds like you've redesigned your system such that the digit lines now require a positive voltage to turn them on. In this case, you need an arrangement that can source current to the digit lines when activated. For this scenario, a PNP transistor array is a plausible solution.
Using a PNP Transistor Array for Digits:
  1. Component Selection:
    • Consider using a PNP Darlington array like the TD62783APG, which can provide sourcing current to each digit when enabled.
  2. Basic Setup:
    • Outputs: Connect the outputs of the PNP array to the digit lines of your display.
    • Base Control: Each input on the PNP array connects to a microcontroller or inversion logic that will pull it low to turn the digit on, thereby allowing current to flow to the digit.
  3. Power Supply:
    • Connect the common terminal of the PNP array to ground (if available), or ensure it's configured per the array's specifications.
Circuit Considerations:
  • Digital Control: Your controlling logic will need to drive the input of the PNP array low to switch it on (source power to the digit).
  • Resistors: Incorporate current-limiting resistors at the base inputs to control the base current. Typical values might range from 1kΩ to 10kΩ depending on the specific PNP array.
Example Configuration:
  • When a digit needs to be illuminated:
    • Pull the respective input of the PNP array low.
    • This causes the array to source current to the digit line, turning that digit on.
This setup works well for systems needing active-high signals for digit control, syncing with your new design that requires a positive voltage to activate the digits.
If you need a more detailed explanation or assistance with a specific aspect of this configuration, feel free to reach out!
11mo
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is this right connection? is BC327 enought for this purpose?

@copilot is this right connection? is BC327 enought for this purpose?
11mo
To determine whether the BC327 is suitable for your circuit, it is important to consider its role and the expected current and voltage requirements in the circuit.
The BC327 is a general-purpose PNP bipolar junction transistor. Some of its key specifications include:
  • Collector-Emitter Voltage (Vceo): Maximum 45 V
  • Collector Current (Ic): Maximum 800 mA
  • Power Dissipation (Pd): 625 mW
In your project, it seems the transistor Q1 is likely used to switch a load. Here are a few things you can consider to validate its usage:
  1. Load Current: Make sure that the load current does not exceed 800 mA. Given the typical nature of display driving, if this applies here, the current should be considerably lower.
  2. Voltage Levels: Ensure that the voltage across the collector-emitter does not exceed 45 V during operation.
  3. Power Dissipation: Calculate the anticipated power dissipation to assure it’s within the 625 mW maximum rating.
To determine if the connection is right, I'd need a bit more context on how Q1 is connected to other components or nets. If you can provide that, I can help verify its connections.
11mo
It takes signal from max7219 dig0 to base (turning to gnd for selected digit), than emitor is connected to +12V and colector is connected to out0 signal, that is connected to +12V of led strips that forms a 7 segment digit, negative ends of led strips are connected to ULN2803A driven by segA-segG signals
11mo
Thank you for providing the details. Let's review the connections and see if they make sense:
  1. Base Connection: The base of the Q1 transistor is connected to the U1 pin of the MAX7219. This means the MAX7219 will drive the base of the transistor to control the digit.
  2. Emitter Connection: The emitter of the Q1 is connected to +12V. In a PNP transistor configuration, this is correct because you want the emitter at a higher potential to allow current to flow from emitter to collector when the base is pulled low.
  3. Collector Connection: The collector is connected to the out0 signal, which is linked to the positive end of the LED strip. This configuration is proper for controlling the power to the LED strips, as the MAX7219 will make a current path through the transistor.
  4. ULN2803A Connection: The negative ends of the LED strips are connected to the ULN2803A, which acts as a low-side switch driven by the segments outputs (segA to segG).
Based on these connections, the setup should work correctly. The BC327 should be sufficient, provided:
  • The LED strips draw a current within the transistor's current rating $800 , \text{mA}$.
  • The forward voltage of the LEDs sums to a total that leaves room for the required voltage drop across the transistor to stay within its ratings.
Confirm that the base current supplied by the MAX7219 is capable enough to drive the transistor into saturation ensuring the proper switch for the LED strips. In this configuration, it looks appropriate. If the precise current drawn by the LED strips isn't known, it's advisable to verify it with a measurement to ensure the BC327 handles it safely.
11mo
and is BC327 opened by pulling base to gnd?
11mo
Yes, the BC327 is a PNP transistor, and it is turned on (or "opened") when the base is pulled toward ground. Here's how it works for a PNP transistor:
  • Off State: When the voltage at the base is close to the voltage at the emitter (in this case, +12V), the transistor remains off, and no current flows from emitter to collector.
  • On State: To turn the BC327 on, you need to make the base voltage lower than the emitter voltage. This is typically achieved by grounding the base or by making it sufficiently low relative to the emitter voltage (+12V in this context). When the base voltage is lower than the emitter by at least around $0.6V$ to $0.7V$, the transistor begins to conduct, allowing current to flow from emitter to collector.
So, pulling the base of the BC327 to ground will allow it to conduct and complete the circuit for your application, thus powering the LED strips as per your description. This is precisely what the MAX7219 does when it drives the base to ground for the relevant digit select line.
11mo
if i have 5V TTL logic on dig0?
11mo
If the MAX7219\text{MAX7219} outputs 5V TTL logic on its DIG_0 pin, there are a few considerations for driving a PNP transistor like the BC327\text{BC327}:
  1. Base-Emitter Voltage Difference: For the BC327 to turn on, the voltage at the emitter (+12V) needs to be higher than the voltage at the base. In an ideal situation, a PNP transistor turns on when the base is at least about 0.6V to 0.7V lower than the emitter.
  2. Logic Levels: If the DIG_0 of the MAX7219 is at 5V when active, then the voltage difference between the emitter (+12V) and base (5V) is 7V. This is sufficient to turn on the transistor because it exceeds the required 0.6V to 0.7V.
  3. Turning Off the Transistor: When the DIG_0 line is high (at 5V), the base-emitter junction is still forward-biased because +12V is applied to the emitter, which means the BC327 will conduct. If the DIG_0 line goes low (0V), the transistor will turn on even more strongly, allowing more current to flow through.
In summary, with a 5V TTL logic level on DIG_0, the BC327 can effectively be controlled, assuming that the DIG_0 pin drives the base low (closer to 0V) when needed for turning off the transistor. The logic levels will indeed allow it to operate correctly since 5V is low enough relative to the 12V emitter to forward-bias the base-emitter junction. This means:
  • To Turn On the BC327 (for DIG_0 active): DIG_0 should be 0V.
  • To Turn Off the BC327: DIG_0 should ideally be pulled up closer to 12V or at least left at 5V.
This explanation assumes the logic operates such that the output is low when it needs to activate the display, which is what your original description implies.
11mo
can i add some resistors to turn it off via 5V on base?
11mo
Yes, you can use a resistor network to help ensure that the BC327 turns off more effectively when the base is at 5V. Here's how you can do it:
Resistor Network for Base Biasing
  1. Base Resistor ($R_B$): Place a resistor between the DIG_0 output of the MAX7219 and the base of the BC327. This helps limit the current into the base when the transistor is on.
  2. Pull-up Resistor ($R_P$): Add a pull-up resistor between the base and the +12V supply. This resistor helps to ensure that when DIG_0 is at 5V, the base voltage is closer to the emitter voltage, turning the transistor off.
Example Values
  • Base Resistor ($R_B$): You can start with a value like 10kΩ. This value limits the base current, which is adequate for switching. The value can be adjusted depending on the required base current and switching speed.
  • Pull-up Resistor ($R_P$): A higher value like 100kΩ can be used. The pull-up resistor should have a value high enough not to interfere significantly with normal operation (so the transistor can still turn on), but low enough to pull the base towards 12V when DIG_0 is at 5V.
Expected Behavior
  • Transistor On: When DIG_0 is 0V, the base-emitter junction is sufficiently forward-biased. $R_B$ limits the base current.
  • Transistor Off: When DIG_0 is 5V, the pull-up resistor $R_P$ helps to lift the base voltage closer to the emitter voltage, minimizing the base-emitter voltage and turning the transistor off more effectively.
Would you like to calculate specific resistor values for your configuration based on your specific load currents and switching requirements?
11mo
so 1k in series to base and 100k pull-up between base and emitor?
11mo
Using a 1kΩ resistor in series with the base and a 100kΩ pull-up resistor between the base and emitter is a reasonable starting configuration. Here's a breakdown of how this configuration behaves:
Circuit Configuration
  • Base Resistor ($R_B = 1kΩ$):
    • Limits the base current when the transistor is on.
    • Ensures the base-emitter junction does not draw excessive current when conducting.
  • Pull-up Resistor ($R_P = 100kΩ$):
    • Connected between the base and emitter (+12V).
    • Pulls the base voltage up toward +12V when DIG_0 is high (5V).
    • Helps ensure the PNP transistor is turned off more effectively.
Expected Operation
  • Transistor On (Base Pulled Low):
    • DIG_0 at 0V results in sufficient voltage drop across the base-emitter junction, turning the transistor on.
    • Base current is limited by 1kΩ, which helps protect the MAX7219 and the transistor.
  • Transistor Off (Base at 5V):
    • With DIG_0 at 5V, the pull-up resistor helps bring the base voltage closer to the emitter voltage.
    • This configuration reduces the base-emitter voltage, turning the transistor off or at least minimizing its conduction significantly.
Calculation Check
The choice of a 1kΩ base resistor typically allows a maximum base current of about 7mA when DIG_0 is at 0V, which should be adequate for switching the load, assuming a standard PNP transistor current gain (hFE).
If there are specific current or speed requirements, you might need to fine-tune the resistor values, but these should be sufficient for general switching purposes. If in doubt, you can prototype and test this setup to ensure reliable performance in your application.
Let me know if you need further details or calculations!
11mo
can you check what switching speed has max7219?
11mo
The MAX7219 is a common-cathode display driver that operates over an SPI-compatible serial interface. When considering switching speed, it's essential to look at the SPI communication specifics, including the clock frequency and execution timing.
For the MAX7219, here are some relevant details:
  • Serial Clock Frequency (f_CLK): The MAX7219 can support SPI clock frequencies up to 10 MHz. This high frequency allows for fast data updates to the display.
  • Data Propagation Delay: The delay from the rising edge of the serial clock to the data update is typically very small, in the nanosecond range, allowing for rapid updates between each digital output.
Key Points on Switching and Update Speed
  • Display Refresh Rate: The MAX7219 continuously refreshes the LED display at a rate sufficient to ensure no visual flickering under typical conditions, usually refresh rates are controlled through the on-chip oscillator.
  • SPI Command Execution: Commands such as digit updates happen almost instantaneously beyond the communication delay, allowing for responsive changes to the display.
Given these points, the MAX7219 is well-suited for high-speed display updates in applications such as your stopwatch, where digit changes need to be fast enough to keep up with the timing. If your concern is related to visually perceptible speed, the chip will usually exceed the requirements needed to avoid any flicker or delay.
If there are specific timing requirements beyond what the MAX7219 can handle, verification through testing or additional timing components could be useful. Let me know if there's anything specific you want to explore related to this!
11mo
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will this work?

@copilot will this work?
1y
To determine whether your setup will work, let's consider the main components and their connections:
  1. Arduino Nano Shield: You're using a template that includes an official pinout for the Arduino Nano, which is great for ensuring compatibility with other components.
  2. MAX7219EWG+: This IC is used to drive LED displays, and it seems to be connected with various segment and digit nets like SEG_A, SEG_B, etc., and DIG_0, DIG_1, etc.
  3. ULN2803A: This is a Darlington transistor array, often used to drive high-current loads like relays or LED segments. It's connected to the segment nets, which is appropriate.
  4. NRF24L01 Breakout Board: This is a wireless communication module. It's connected to SPI nets (MOSI, MISO, SCK) and control nets (CE, CSN) with an appropriate power supply.
  5. Power Supplies: Your project has power nets labeled +5V, +12V, and +3V3. Make sure that all components are receiving the appropriate power levels.
  6. Connections:
    • SPI-related signals are appropriately connected between the NRF24L01 and the Arduino.
    • The MAX7219 is connected to the necessary segments and digits, which should control the LED segments.
    • Appropriate power connections and grounding are made.
Assuming you have correctly loaded any needed firmware or code onto the Arduino Nano to control these components and the connections are correctly made per the schematic, it looks like the setup could work.
However, ensure:
  • Check for Power Levels: Confirm that all components are receiving correct voltage levels.
  • Load and Test Firmware: Make sure your Arduino Nano sketch is correctly set up to interface with each device.
  • Testing: Before finalizing the PCB, test the setup on a breadboard to ensure all components are operating as expected.
Do you have any specific concerns or components you'd like me to look into further?
1y
how should i connect common pin 10 of U5?
1y
The common pin (pin 10) of the ULN2803A\text{ULN2803A} is used for connecting the freewheeling diodes commonly used when driving inductive loads such as motors or relays. This pin should be connected to the same positive voltage supply that is used for the loads you are driving with the outputs of the ULN2803A\text{ULN2803A}. In your project, since you have several power supply nets, it's typically connected to:
  • +12V Power Supply: If you're driving loads that operate around this voltage.
Here's how you should connect it:
  • Connect U5:COMMON_FREE_WHEELING_DIODES\text{U5:COMMON\_FREE\_WHEELING\_DIODES} to +12V.
Please confirm the voltage levels of your loads before making this connection, as attaching the incorrect voltage can damage your components or lead to incorrect operation. If your loads operate at different voltages, adjust the connection accordingly. Let me know if you need further assistance or validation on other connections!
1y
and how it will work if i want to display 8 on dig0?
1y
To display the number "8" on a 7-segment display connected to DIG0 through the MAX7219, you need to ensure all segments (A, B, C, D, E, F, G) are lit. Here's how it works:
  1. MAX7219 Configuration: The MAX7219 receives data from a microcontroller and lights up the required segments based on the input data.
  2. Segment Control:
    • Segments controlled by MAX7219 need to be connected to the appropriate segment pins (SEG_A through SEG_G).
    • Digits are controlled by the corresponding digit pins (DIG_0, DIG_1, ..., DIG_7).
  3. Connections for Displaying "8":
    • Ensure the data sent to the MAX7219 for DIG0 corresponds to lighting up all segments.
    • If you're manually controlling the segments, set the following:
      • Connect U1:$14 / SEG_A$ to ON
      • Connect U1:$16 / SEG_B$ to ON
      • Connect U1:$20 / SEG_C$ to ON
      • Connect U1:$23 / SEG_D$ to ON
      • Connect U1:$21 / SEG_E$ to ON
      • Connect U1:$15 / SEG_F$ to ON
      • Connect U1:$17 / SEG_G$ to ON
    • Connect U1:$2 / DIG_0$ to the common cathode or anode depending on your display type.
  4. Microcontroller Code: Ensure that your Arduino sends the correct command to the MAX7219 to enable all the respective segments for DIG0.
By sending the correct data word to the MAX7219, it will automatically light up the corresponding segments to display "8". Let me know if you need help with code examples or interfacing specifics!
1y
if U2 is pulling the segments to +12V if segA to segG is selected, than at U5 is dig driven to gnd and out0 is off and out1 to out7 is on, is it correct?
1y
Let's break down the functionality based on your setup and assumptions:
  • ULN2803A (U2): This is a Darlington transistor array that can drive high currents. When used to drive a 7-segment display, its outputs (like OUT_1, OUT_2, ..., OUT_7) are typically connected to the individual segments (A to G) of the display.
  • Segment Activation:
    • When a segment is "selected" or activated at U2, the corresponding output pin will be pulled low (connected to ground), allowing current to flow through the segment.
  • Digit Selection (U5):
    • The outputs of U5 (such as OUT_0, OUT_1, ..., OUT_7) are used to drive the common cathode/anode of the 7-segment display digits.
    • If a particular digit (e.g., DIG0) is active, it should be connected so that it completes the circuit for the activated segments.
Given your scenario:
  • If U2 is active: This means that when a segment is selected by U2, the corresponding segment is pulled to ground, enabling current flow through that segment.
  • For U5 driving the digit:
    • DIG0 driven to GND: This will allow the selected segments to light up for DIG0 if it's a common cathode display.
    • OUT0 is off and OUT1 to OUT7 are on: This would typically mean that the other digits are inactive, and only DIG0 is active, which is what you want if you want to display something on DIG0 only.
Therefore, your setup seems correct assuming:
  • Segment Control: Current through activated segments is flowing correctly to light them up.
  • Digit Control: The correct digit (DIG0) is being driven low to complete the circuit for the segments.
Ensure that your microcontroller is correctly sending commands to select the appropriate segments and digit timing through the MAX7219 to achieve multiplexing if using multiple digits. Let me know if you need more detailed guidance or if I can help with something else!
1y
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