• Terminal
    Terminal
    An electrical connector acting as reusable interface to a conductor and creating a point where external circuits can be connected.
  • Ground
    A common return path for electric current. Commonly known as ground.
  • Net Portal
    A net identifier used to create connectivity to other Net Portal with the same designator. #portal
  • Power Net Portal
    Power net portal is a special schematic object used to define a power or ground net. Power ports allow you to conveniently indicate a power net at any location in the design. Power nets of the same designator automatically connect throughout your design #portal #power
  • Generic Resistor
    A generic fixed resistor for rapid developing circuit topology. Save precious design time by seamlessly add more information to this part (value, footprint, etc.) as it becomes available. Standard resistor values: 1.0Ω 10Ω 100Ω 1.0kΩ 10kΩ 100kΩ 1.0MΩ 1.1Ω 11Ω 110Ω 1.1kΩ 11kΩ 110kΩ 1.1MΩ 1.2Ω 12Ω 120Ω 1.2kΩ 12kΩ 120kΩ 1.2MΩ 1.3Ω 13Ω 130Ω 1.3kΩ 13kΩ 130kΩ 1.3MΩ 1.5Ω 15Ω 150Ω 1.5kΩ 15kΩ 150kΩ 1.5MΩ 1.6Ω 16Ω 160Ω 1.6kΩ 16kΩ 160kΩ 1.6MΩ 1.8Ω 18Ω 180Ω 1.8KΩ 18kΩ 180kΩ 1.8MΩ 2.0Ω 20Ω 200Ω 2.0kΩ 20kΩ 200kΩ 2.0MΩ 2.2Ω 22Ω 220Ω 2.2kΩ 22kΩ 220kΩ 2.2MΩ 2.4Ω 24Ω 240Ω 2.4kΩ 24kΩ 240kΩ 2.4MΩ 2.7Ω 27Ω 270Ω 2.7kΩ 27kΩ 270kΩ 2.7MΩ 3.0Ω 30Ω 300Ω 3.0KΩ 30KΩ 300KΩ 3.0MΩ 3.3Ω 33Ω 330Ω 3.3kΩ 33kΩ 330kΩ 3.3MΩ 3.6Ω 36Ω 360Ω 3.6kΩ 36kΩ 360kΩ 3.6MΩ 3.9Ω 39Ω 390Ω 3.9kΩ 39kΩ 390kΩ 3.9MΩ 4.3Ω 43Ω 430Ω 4.3kΩ 43KΩ 430KΩ 4.3MΩ 4.7Ω 47Ω 470Ω 4.7kΩ 47kΩ 470kΩ 4.7MΩ 5.1Ω 51Ω 510Ω 5.1kΩ 51kΩ 510kΩ 5.1MΩ 5.6Ω 56Ω 560Ω 5.6kΩ 56kΩ 560kΩ 5.6MΩ 6.2Ω 62Ω 620Ω 6.2kΩ 62KΩ 620KΩ 6.2MΩ 6.8Ω 68Ω 680Ω 6.8kΩ 68kΩ 680kΩ 6.8MΩ 7.5Ω 75Ω 750Ω 7.5kΩ 75kΩ 750kΩ 7.5MΩ 8.2Ω 82Ω 820Ω 8.2kΩ 82kΩ 820kΩ 8.2MΩ 9.1Ω 91Ω 910Ω 9.1kΩ 91kΩ 910kΩ 9.1MΩ #generics #CommonPartsLibrary
  • Generic Capacitor
    A generic fixed capacitor for rapid developing circuit topology. Save precious design time by seamlessly add more information to this part (value, footprint, etc.) as it becomes available. Standard capacitor values: 1.0pF 10pF 100pF 1000pF 0.01uF 0.1uF 1.0uF 10uF 100uF 1000uF 10,000uF 1.1pF 11pF 110pF 1100pF 1.2pF 12pF 120pF 1200pF 1.3pF 13pF 130pF 1300pF 1.5pF 15pF 150pF 1500pF 0.015uF 0.15uF 1.5uF 15uF 150uF 1500uF 1.6pF 16pF 160pF 1600pF 1.8pF 18pF 180pF 1800pF 2.0pF 20pF 200pF 2000pF 2.2pF 22pF 20pF 2200pF 0.022uF 0.22uF 2.2uF 22uF 220uF 2200uF 2.4pF 24pF 240pF 2400pF 2.7pF 27pF 270pF 2700pF 3.0pF 30pF 300pF 3000pF 3.3pF 33pF 330pF 3300pF 0.033uF 0.33uF 3.3uF 33uF 330uF 3300uF 3.6pF 36pF 360pF 3600pF 3.9pF 39pF 390pF 3900pF 4.3pF 43pF 430pF 4300pF 4.7pF 47pF 470pF 4700pF 0.047uF 0.47uF 4.7uF 47uF 470uF 4700uF 5.1pF 51pF 510pF 5100pF 5.6pF 56pF 560pF 5600pF 6.2pF 62pF 620pF 6200pF 6.8pF 68pF 680pF 6800pF 0.068uF 0.68uF 6.8uF 68uF 680uF 6800uF 7.5pF 75pF 750pF 7500pF 8.2pF 82pF 820pF 8200pF 9.1pF 91pF 910pF 9100pF #generics #CommonPartsLibrary
  • Generic Inductor
    A generic fixed inductor for rapid developing circuit topology. *You can now change the footprint and 3D model at the top level anytime you want. This is the power of #generics
  • RMCF0805JT47K0
    47 kOhms ±5% 0.125W, 1/8W Chip Resistor 0805 (2012 Metric) Automotive AEC-Q200 Thick Film #forLedBlink
  • 875105359001
    10uF Capacitor Aluminum Polymer 20% 16V SMD 5x5.3mm #forLedBlink #commonpartslibrary #capacitor #aluminumpolymer #radialcan
  • CTL1206FYW1T
    Yellow 595nm LED Indication - Discrete 1.7V 1206 (3216 Metric) #forLedBlink
Rp
Resistance
10k Ω
VBAT
LED
Ci
Capacitance
1u F
U4054
nCHRG
Rl
Resistance
2.2k Ω

mito

mito
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February 13th 2024
Last updated by debloper
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    can you spot any incomplete routing, trace issues or layout issues on the PCB?
    @copilot can you spot any incomplete routing, trace issues or layout issues on the PCB?
    11mo
    Given the textual description of your project, I can provide some insights into potential issues or areas that may require attention in your circuit design. I'll base this on typical design considerations and the information provided. However, without direct access to the PCB layout or schematic diagrams, my assessment will be limited to the connections and component configurations mentioned in your project description.
    Potential Incomplete Routing or Issues

    1. Power Distribution Consistency: Ensure that VBAT (considered as a power output) and VIN (power input) have proper decoupling capacitors nearby to handle power spikes and to stabilize power supply lines. Your design includes capacitors (Co0, Co1, Ci with 1uF capacitance), which seem intended for this purpose, but their exact placement relative to power pins isn't specified. Ideal practice is placing them as close as possible to the power pins they are meant to stabilize.
    2. Grounding: Your project includes GND designators but ensuring all components that need a ground connection are properly connected to a common ground point (star ground configuration or similar) is crucial to avoid ground loops and potential noise issues.
    3. Charging Circuit: The TP4054 is a linear lithium battery charger IC. You've correctly connected the U4054:GND to GND, which is essential for the operation of the IC. However, make sure the U4054:PROG pin, which connects to Rp:(P2) (10k resistor), is correctly set to program the charging current according to the datasheet of the TP4054. The value of Rp determines the charge current, so this connection scenario assumes you've calculated the desired charge current beforehand.
    4. Signal Integrity: For nets such as 6289ab5a665549ea275038f27ea22cb5 connecting the charging indicator (LED to U4054:CHRG through nCHRG), ensure trace widths and lengths are optimized to prevent voltage drop, especially if the LED is intended to be an indicator that could be affected by weak current flow.
    5. LED Current Limiting Resistor: In your project, there's a resistor Rl (2.2k) seemingly intended for current limiting for the LED (Connect LED:A to Rl:P1). Ensure this value matches the LED’s voltage and current requirements to prevent excessive current from damaging the LED.
    Layout Considerations

    • Trace Widths: For power traces, including those connected to VBAT, VIN, and U4054:VCC, ensure traces are wide enough to carry the current without excessive voltage drop or overheating.
    • Component Spacing: Ensure there is adequate spacing between components to prevent short circuits, especially for SMD components like those in 0603 packages (considering thermal expansion and contraction during soldering).
    • Via Usage: Ensure vias used to connect traces between layers are adequately sized for the current they will carry and are not excessively used in high-frequency signal paths, which could lead to impedance discontinuities.
    General Suggestions

    • Review the Charger IC Datasheet: The TP4054 has specific requirements for its pins (e.g., PROG for setting charge current, CHRG for charge status output). Ensure these connections are made following the manufacturer's guidelines.
    Given the textual information alone, these points aim to assist in identifying potential issues in your project's routing and layout considerations. For a more detailed analysis, reviewing the schematic in Flux and the actual PCB layout would be necessary to spot any specific trace or layout issues, such as trace widths, lengths, and routing paths that could affect performance or manufacturability.
    11mo
    I am not talking about FR4 board thinckness (z dimension) to be 4mm. I'm talking...
    @copilot I am not talking about FR4 board thinckness (z dimension) to be 4mm. I'm talking about the height and width (x and y dimensions) to be 4mm. It's not taking the changes for any values below 6mm. Anything larger than 6mm*6mm is getting applied.
    11mo
    In the context of your project in Flux (flux.ai), the issue you're encountering with specifying board dimensions smaller than 6mm×6mm is likely not a limitation of the platform itself, but rather a constraint set by default in the design tool or a limitation imposed by your PCB manufacturer's capabilities.
    Here are a few suggestions to try and work around this issue:

    1. Double-check the design settings: Make sure there isn't a minimum board size setting in the tool's preferences or project settings that has been set to 6mm×6mm. It could be inadvertently enforcing this limit.
    2. Modify the grid settings: Sometimes, the issue could be related to the grid settings you're working on. If the grid is too coarse, it might not allow you to specify dimensions smaller than a certain threshold. Try reducing the grid size and see if that allows you to input smaller dimensions.
    3. Contact support: If the issue persists and you cannot find a workaround, reach out to Flux support or check their documentation/forum. There might be a known workaround or a patch for the issue you're facing.
    4. Consider manufacturer specifications: If you succeed in setting the dimensions in Flux, do consult with your PCB manufacturer. Some manufacturers have minimum size restrictions due to the limitations of their production process. Discuss with them the feasibility of producing a PCB with dimensions smaller than 6mm×6mm.
    5. Use a filler space: If the manufacturer allows but Flux still restricts, a workaround could be to design the PCB with a non-functional filler space to meet the minimum size requirement within Flux. Once the design is exported, manually or using external tools, trim the design to your actual required size, ensuring that you're not violating your manufacturer's capabilities. Please note this approach requires careful planning to avoid issues during manufacturing and is generally not recommended unless you have specific capabilities or arrangements with your manufacturer.
    Remember, while these suggestions might help circumvent the tool's limitations, always ensure that your design meets the capabilities of your manufacturing process. Small dimensions can introduce unique challenges in PCB fabrication and assembly, including issues with component placement, soldering, and handling.
    11mo
    How do I double check the design settings? Please guide me through the process to verify if any higher level settings in inadvertently enforcing minimum 6mm rule.
    11mo
    As of my last training data, detailed procedural guidance specific to Flux (flux.ai) and its interface nuances might vary from the actual platform due to updates or changes in its UI/UX. However, I can provide a general approach based on common practices in PCB design tools that should help you navigate checking design settings in Flux or a similar electronic design automation (EDA) tool:
    1. Access Project Settings

    • Usually, project settings can be accessed from either the project dashboard or directly within the project editor. Look for a "Settings," "Project Settings," or "Preferences" option in the top menu bar, toolbar, or sometimes within a right-click context menu in the workspace.
    2. Review General Settings

    • Within the settings menu, there should be sections or tabs dedicated to different aspects of the project, such as "General," "Design," "PCB," etc. Start by reviewing the "General" or "Design" settings for any dimensions-related constraints.
    3. Inspect PCB Settings

    • Look for a section/tab specifically dedicated to PCB settings. It is common for PCB design tools to have settings related to board dimensions, including minimum and maximum dimensions, within this portion of the settings.
    4. Search for Board Constraints or Rules

    • Many EDA tools have a feature to define design rules or constraints. Search for a "Design Rules," "Constraints," or "Rules" section. Review if there are any rules specified that might enforce minimum board dimensions.
    5. Check Grid and Snap Settings

    • Although less common, ensure your grid or snap settings aren’t indirectly causing issues with setting smaller dimensions by having a grid size too large for precise placement or dimensioning.
    6. Documentation and Help

    • If the settings aren't intuitive or if you're having trouble finding the specific setting, consult the tool's documentation or help section. Flux might have a search function within their help documentation where you can look up "board dimensions," "design constraints," or similar keywords.
    7. Contact Support

    • If all else fails and you're still unable to adjust your settings as needed, reaching out to Flux’s support team can provide direct assistance. They might have insights into recent updates or features that are not widely documented yet.
    General Reminder:
    Remember, the layout and specific naming conventions might differ, so some adaptation in searching for these settings may be required based on the actual interface and available options in Flux.
    This method should give you a solid starting point to review and adjust your project settings, ensuring they align with your design goals and constraints.
    11mo
    how can I make the board height 4mm? It seems to ignore any value less than 6mm.
    @copilot how can I make the board height 4mm? It seems to ignore any value less than 6mm.
    11mo
    In the context of PCB design with Flux.ai, the limitations you've encountered with board height might be related to the constraints of the tool itself or the manufacturing capabilities it assumes by default. Typically, the minimum height (or thickness) of a PCB that most manufacturers can handle varies around 0.4mm to 1.6mm, with 1.6mm being the most common thickness. However, your requirement of 4mm is quite unusual as it exceeds the standard maximum thickness.
    If Flux.ai is not allowing you to set a height lower than 6mm, it's possible that there's a misunderstanding in terms of the parameter you're trying to set. In PCB design, "height" could either refer to the thickness of the PCB itself, which is usually much smaller than 6mm, or to the maximum height of components or enclosures above the PCB, which would be a more fitting context for a 6mm minimum.
    Given your exact needs:

    • If you're trying to set the board thickness: Verify that you're adjusting the correct parameter in Flux.ai. If the issue persists, it may be a limitation or bug within the software. As a workaround, you might need to design your PCB with the limitations in mind and then communicate directly with your manufacturer about the intended thickness. Custom thicknesses, especially those outside standard ranges, are often feasible but need to be directly addressed with the PCB fabricator.
    • If you're trying to specify an area clearance or component height limitation of 4mm above the board: Ensure you're in the correct setting pane for adjusting clearance or component heights. This might not be directly related to the "height" of the board but rather to design rules or constraints settings where you specify the maximum allowed height for mounted components to ensure clearance for enclosures or other constraints.
    To precisely control such parameters, review the documentation or support resources for Flux.ai to ensure you're modifying the appropriate setting. If Flux.ai fundamentally doesn't support the setting you're trying to change, you might need to manually include these constraints in your design notes or specifications when communicating with a manufacturer or assembler.
    11mo
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    Checks that the power traveling across a given resistor is under its rating with 50% headroom.
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    Checks that capacitors have appropriate voltage ratings to prevent overheating and ensure reliable circuit operation.
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    Reports copper elements that are shorting.
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    Reports nodes that are assigned to a layer that doesn't exist in the layout stackup.
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    Designators
    Net
    VBAT, P1, P1
    VBAT
    GBAT, GND
    GND
    Reports nodes that are using rules that are not supported anymore.
    Reports layers that have multiple copper fills of different nets. Make sure the Connected Layers rule value of nets with fills is valid.
    Name
    Trace 407d