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For Shielded RJ45 connector, is it better to connect SH-1 and SH-2 to ground or ...

@copilot Is it ok for me to assume that pin1 and pin2 are the same twisted pair, Pin3 and Pin4 are the same twisted pair, etc?
6mo
It's generally a reasonable assumption that pairs of adjacent pins on RJ-45 connectors correspond to the same twisted pair, particularly when following standard Ethernet wiring schemes such as T568A or T568B. The typically used pinout for Ethernet cables, which would use an RJ-45 connector like the RJHSE-5380, is as follows:

  • Pair 1: Pins 1 and 2
  • Pair 2: Pins 3 and 6
  • Pair 3: Pins 4 and 5
  • Pair 4: Pins 7 and 8
Based on this standard pinout, your assumption would not always hold true as per the T568A and T568B standards, because the pairs are not simply adjacent pins except for the first pair (Pins 1 and 2). Here's the standard mapping for clarity:
T568A

  • Pair 1: Pins 4 and 5 (Blue)
  • Pair 2: Pins 3 and 6 (Green)
  • Pair 3: Pins 1 and 2 (Orange)
  • Pair 4: Pins 7 and 8 (Brown)
T568B

  • Pair 1: Pins 4 and 5 (Blue)
  • Pair 2: Pins 1 and 2 (Orange)
  • Pair 3: Pins 3 and 6 (Green)
  • Pair 4: Pins 7 and 8 (Brown)
If you're following standard wiring, you'll need to check the specific Ethernet wiring scheme you intend to use.
For your project, the assignments for the pins on your RJHSE-5380 are as follows:
In summary, Pins 1 and 2 form a pair; Pins 3 and 6 form a pair; Pins 4 and 5 form a pair, and Pins 7 and 8 form a pair.
Always refer to your specific component's datasheet or wiring standard for the most accurate information.
6mo
@copilot For Shielded RJ45 connector, is it better to connect SH-1 and SH-2 to ground or just one of them is enough?
6mo
For a shielded RJ45 connector like the RJHSE-5380, it is generally recommended to connect the shield pins (SH-1 and SH-2) to ground. The purpose of the shield is to protect against electromagnetic interference (EMI) and ensure proper grounding improves the effectiveness of the shielding. Here’s a breakdown of the connections:

  • Connect both SH-1 and SH-2 to ground: This ensures that the shield is adequately grounded and provides better EMI protection. Grounding both shield pins helps to minimize any potential voltage differences that could cause interference.
To summarize, you should:

  • Connect J5:Shield(Pin1)J5:Shield \, (Pin \, 1) and J5:Shield(Pin2)J5:Shield \, (Pin \, 2) to GND.
Would you like to make these connections in your design?
6mo
I know that i2c is not meant to be used on long distance application. However, i...

@copilot what's the resistance of the i2c pull-up resistor on arduino mega?
6mo
The Arduino Mega 2560 typically uses two 10 kΩ pull-up resistors for the I2C lines (SDA and SCL). These resistors are connected to the 5V supply rail. If you need to adjust these values for specific applications or increased bus speed, you might consider different resistor values.
Would you like any further assistance with the Arduino Loadcell System Shield project?
6mo
@copilot I know that i2c is not meant to be used on long distance application. However, if I have to do it, is it better to put the scl and sda lines on the same rj45 twisted pair to reduce noise? of is it better to put them on separate twisted pair?
6mo
Using I2C over long distances can indeed be challenging due to its susceptibility to noise and signal degradation. However, here are some considerations to optimize performance:
Twisted Pair Configuration

  1. Placing SCL and SDA on the Same Twisted Pair:

    • Advantages:

      • Twisting the two signal lines together can help to cancel out some external electromagnetic interference due to the close proximity of the conductors.
    • Disadvantages:

      • This configuration can potentially cause crosstalk between the SCL and SDA lines, which could degrade signal integrity and data reliability.
  2. Placing SCL and SDA on Separate Twisted Pairs:

    • Advantages:

      • Reduces the chance of crosstalk between the clock and data lines.
    • Disadvantages:

      • Each pair will have a different level of interference cancellation, which might make one signal cleaner than the other, depending on the pairing and environmental noise.
Recommended Approach

  • Twisted Pair Configuration: Pair each signal line (SCL and SDA) with a ground line. This reduces crosstalk and improves signal integrity.

    • Pair 1: SCL + GND
    • Pair 2: SDA + GND
Practical Tips

  1. Pull-Up Resistors:

    • Use strong pull-up resistors on the SCL and SDA lines. Values around 1kΩ to 4.7kΩ are typical for shorter distances, but you may need to experiment with lower values (e.g., 330Ω) for longer distances to maintain signal integrity.
  2. Shielding:

    • Using shielded cable for the RJ45 can provide an additional layer of noise protection. Ensure the shield is grounded properly.
  3. I2C Extenders:

    • You can use I2C bus extenders or buffers that are specifically designed to extend the I2C communication distance and improve noise immunity. Components like the P82B96 can be very effective for this purpose.
  4. Reduced Speed:

    • Reduce the I2C bus speed. The standard 100 kHz or 400 kHz speeds may be too fast for long distances. Experiment with the slowest possible speed that meets your application requirements.
By pairing each signal with a ground, you can improve the noise immunity of your system while reducing crosstalk, which is a common issue when transmitting high-frequency signals over longer distances.
6mo
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Load_Cell_6_SDA
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J2
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VIN
Load_Cell_5_DRDY
U1
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Adafruit TCA9458A Breakout
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Load_Cell_2_DRDY
Load_Cell_2_SCL
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Arduino Force Units Connection Shield

Arduino Force Units Connection Shield
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Created
July 12th 2024
Last updated by suckatpcbb
a month ago
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suckatpcbb

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This board will power 6 sets of nau7802 and ltc4311 i2c accelerator IC. please h...
@copilot This board will power 6 sets of nau7802 and ltc4311 i2c accelerator IC. please help me decide the setting of decoupling capacitors at the board level
5mo
To ensure proper decoupling, especially given that you're working with I2C components which are sensitive to power fluctuations, you should strategically place decoupling capacitors near each IC. Based on general best practices and the components shown in your project, here are the decoupling capacitor recommendations:

  1. Nau7802 Load Cell Amplifier IC:

    • Typically, you'll want both a 0.1 µF ceramic capacitor and a bulk capacitor (such as 10 µF) close to the power pins of each Nau7802 for noise filtering and stability.
  2. LTC4311 I2C Accelerator IC:

    • For the LTC4311, a 0.1 µF capacitor is often recommended near the power pin to filter out high-frequency noise.
Since you have 6 sets of these ICs, we will replicate the capacitor configuration for each set.
Decoupling Capacitor Configuration For Each Nau7802 (6 sets)

  • 0.1 µF capacitor: Place this as close as possible to the power pins (VDD) of the Nau7802.
  • 10 µF capacitor: Place this close to the 0.1 µF capacitor to help with bulk decoupling.
For Each LTC4311 (6 sets)

  • 0.1 µF capacitor: Place this as close as possible to the VCC pin of the LTC4311.
Suggested Connections
Assuming designators for capacitors are assigned sequentially, you can connect the capacitors like this:
Set 1

  • Connect C1:1C1:1 to +5V.
  • Connect C1:2C1:2 to GND near the Nau7802.
  • Connect C3:1C3:1 to +5V.
  • Connect C3:2C3:2 to GND near the Nau7802.
  • Connect C5:1C5:1 to +5V.
  • Connect C5:2C5:2 to GND near the LTC4311.
Set 2

  • Connect C7:1C7:1 to +5V.
  • Connect C7:2C7:2 to GND near the Nau7802.
  • Connect C9:1C9:1 to +5V.
  • Connect C9:2C9:2 to GND near the Nau7802.
  • Connect C11:1C11:1 to +5V.
  • Connect C11:2C11:2 to GND near the LTC4311.
...
Continue this pattern for the remaining sets.
General Placement Tips

  • Place the 0.1 µF capacitors as close to the power pins of each IC as possible to filter high-frequency noise.
  • The 10 µF capacitors should be placed nearby to provide bulk decoupling.
  • Ensure the capacitors share a low impedance path to the ground plane to minimize potential noise introduction.
Would you like to review or adjust any specific part designators or request additional information?
5mo
the nau7802 and ltc4311 are on other board, where I've already implemented the decoupling circuit. those board will be connect to this board through ethernet cable. Is it necessary to implement decoupling circuit on this particular board?
5mo
If the Nau7802 and LTC4311 ICs are on separate boards and you've already implemented the required decoupling on those boards, it may not be necessary to duplicate the decoupling circuit on your Arduino shield board. However, there are a few scenarios where additional decoupling might still be beneficial:

  1. Long Cable Runs: If the ethernet cable run between boards is long, additional decoupling capacitors on the Arduino shield could help mitigate noise and voltage drops along the power lines.
  2. Power Source Stability: If the power supply on the Arduino shield is not stable or is subject to noise, additional decoupling capacitors on the shield can help ensure stable power is delivered over the cable to the Nau7802 and LTC4311 boards.
  3. Differential Noise and Ground Loops: In cases where there are significant potential differences between the grounds of the Arduino shield and the other boards, decoupling capacitors can help manage noise and prevent ground loops.
Minimal Recommended Decoupling on the Arduino Shield
Given these considerations, here's a minimal approach to ensure stable power delivery:

  • 0.1 µF Ceramic Capacitor: A few strategically placed 0.1 µF ceramic capacitors can filter any high-frequency noise before it travels through the ethernet cable.
  • 10 µF Electrolytic Capacitor: One or two 10 µF capacitors can provide bulk decoupling, ensuring that any power requirements spikes or dips are managed.
Suggested Minimal Connections 0.1 µF Ceramic Capacitors 10 µF Electrolytic Capacitors Placement Tips

  • Place these capacitors near the power entry points where the shield will connect to the power from the other board.
  • Ensure that the capacitors have short and low impedance connections to the power and ground planes to be effective.
Conclusion
With the above minimal decoupling capacitors, you should be able to provide additional power stability without duplicating the full decoupling circuit already present on the other boards. If you still have concerns or specific requirements, feel free to let me know!
5mo
what are the difference of using electrolytic or ceramic capacitor for decoupling?
5mo
Decoupling capacitors are used to filter noise and stabilize voltage in electronic circuits, and the choice between electrolytic and ceramic capacitors can significantly affect the performance. Here's a comparison of the two types in the context of decoupling applications:
Ceramic Capacitors Advantages:

  • Low ESR and ESL: Ceramic capacitors have low equivalent series resistance (ESR) and low equivalent series inductance (ESL), making them very effective at filtering high-frequency noise.
  • Small Size: They are often available in small packages, making them ideal for use in densely packed circuit boards.
  • Stability: Ceramic capacitors generally maintain their capacitance well over a wide range of frequencies and temperatures.
Disadvantages:

  • Capacitance Variation: Some ceramic capacitors, especially those made from certain dielectric materials (like X7R, Y5V), can exhibit significant capacitance changes with temperature and applied voltage.
  • Limited Bulk Capacitance: Generally available in lower capacitance values compared to electrolytic capacitors.
Electrolytic Capacitors Advantages:

  • High Capacitance: Electrolytic capacitors are capable of providing higher capacitance values, making them suitable for bulk decoupling and filtering low-frequency noise.
  • Cost-Effective: Typically, they offer higher capacitance per unit cost.
Disadvantages:

  • Higher ESR and ESL: They have higher ESR and ESL compared to ceramics, making them less effective at high-frequency noise filtering.
  • Larger Size: Electrolytic capacitors are usually larger, which can be a drawback in space-constrained designs.
  • Polarized: They are polarized, meaning correct polarity must be maintained during installation, which adds complexity.
Best Practices for Decoupling:

  1. Combination Use:

    • Often, a combination of ceramic and electrolytic capacitors is employed to cover a broad frequency range.
    • Place small ceramic capacitors (e.g., 0.1 µF, 1 µF) close to IC power pins to filter high-frequency transients.
    • Use larger electrolytic capacitors (e.g., 10 µF, 100 µF) for bulk decoupling, positioned near power entry points or distributed around the board.
Practical Example for Your Project:
Given your scenario where the main boards are connected via an ethernet cable, a combination approach would be beneficial:

  • Ceramic Capacitors (e.g., 0.1 µF, 1 µF):

    • Provide high-frequency noise filtering.
    • Should be placed near the connectors and IC power pins.
  • Electrolytic Capacitors (e.g., 10 µF, 47 µF):

    • Offer bulk decoupling and help stabilize voltage fluctuations over longer timescales.
    • Can be placed near the power entry points and key distribution nodes.
Conclusion:
Using both types of capacitors in combination allows you to handle a wide range of noise frequencies and power stability issues effectively. For detailed applications like your Arduino shield where stable operation is crucial, this mixed approach ensures comprehensive decoupling performance.
5mo
How do I ㄩ@copilot How do I adjust how many layers on my board, and how to make ...
@copilot How do I ㄩ@copilot How do I adjust how many layers on my board, and how to make sure my via goes to ground plane?
5mo
In Flux, you can adjust the number of layers on your PCB and ensure that the vias connect to the ground plane. Here's how:
Adjusting the Number of Layers

  1. Open Your PCB Layout Editor: Make sure you are in the PCB layout view in Flux.
  2. Access the Layer Manager:

    • Look for the "Layer Stack" or "Layers" option in the side panel or menu bar.
    • Here, you can add or remove layers as needed. Typically, you can add signal layers, power layers, and ground layers.
  3. Configuring the Layers: Set the type of each layer (e.g., signal, ground, power) according to your design requirements.
Ensuring Vias Connect to the Ground Plane
To ensure that your vias connect to the ground plane, follow these steps:

  1. Create a Ground Plane:

    • Select the appropriate layer you wish to designate as the ground plane (usually one of the inner layers or the bottom layer in a 2-layer board).
    • Use the Copper Pour or Plane tool to create a ground plane. Assign this plane to the net named "GND."
  2. Place Vias to Connect to Ground:

    • When placing vias in your design, make sure they are positioned such that they touch the ground plane.
    • You can set the net of these vias to "GND" to ensure they connect to the ground plane.
  3. Assign Via Net:

    • Select the via and assign its net to "GND." In Flux, you can typically edit this in the properties panel.
Example Instructions for Connecting Components
Assuming you want to connect a via (designator V1) to the ground plane:

  1. Create a Copper Pour on the Ground Layer:

    • Select the appropriate layer.
    • Use the Copper Pour tool to cover the required area.
    • Assign the net "GND" to this pour.
  2. Place a Via and Assign to GND:

    • Place a via (V1) at the desired location.
    • Assign the net "GND" to V1.
Example Connection Formatting
In your project:

  • Creating a Ground Plane Connection:

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    Connect V1:P1 to GND
By following these steps, you can both increase the number of layers in your PCB design and ensure that your vias connect effectively to the ground plane, improving signal integrity and reducing noise in your circuit.
If you have any specific components or designations to connect, please let me know!
5mo
@copilot I could not find the ground pour tool. please elaborate the location of this feature.
5mo
Certainly! I will guide you through locating and using the ground pour tool within the PCB layout editor of Flux:
Finding the Ground Pour Tool in Flux

  1. Open Your PCB Layout Editor:

    • Ensure you are in the PCB layout view of your project within Flux.
  2. Access the Copper Pour Tool:

    • Look for the toolbox or side panel on your editor interface. The Copper Pour tool is commonly used to create ground planes and other large conductive areas.
Here’s the step-by-step process:
Step-by-Step Instructions:

  1. Open the PCB Layout Editor:

    • Navigate to the PCB layout editor in Flux.
  2. Locate the Copper Pour Tool:

    • Look in the side panel or top menu bar for an icon or option labeled something similar to "Polygon Pour," "Copper Pour," or "Pour Area."
  3. Create the Ground Plane:

    • Select the Copper Pour tool.
    • Click to start drawing the shape of your ground plane. Move the cursor to outline the area and click to define the corners.
    • Double-click to finish the polygon.
  4. Assign the Net:

    • Once the copper pour area is complete, you’ll need to assign it to the ground net:

      • Click on the copper pour area.
      • In the properties panel to the right or a pop-up dialog, look for an option to set the net.
      • Assign the net to "GND."
  5. Place and Connect Vias:

    • Place your vias in positions where they intersect the ground plane.
    • Assign the via net to "GND" to ensure they connect to the plane.
Example Connection to Ground Plane:

  1. Create Copper Pour:

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    Use the Copper Pour tool to create a polygon on your chosen layer.
  2. Assign and Connect Vias to GND:

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    Connect V1:P1 to GND
Visual Steps:

  1. Open Layout Editor: Open your project and go to the PCB layout view in Flux.
  2. Copper Pour Tool: Locate and select the tool for drawing copper polygons (often found in the side panel or menu bar).
  3. Draw Polygon: Click to define the corners of the polygon. Finalize by double-clicking.
  4. Set Net: Assign the ground net ("GND") to the created polygon.
  5. Place Vias: Position vias where needed and assign their net to "GND."
Conclusion:
By following these instructions, you will be able to create a ground plane and ensure that your vias connect to it correctly. If the tool location or names differ in your version of Flux, please refer to the software documentation or help section, as interface updates may slightly change the tool's appearance or location.
Let me know if you need any more specific guidance or screenshots!
5mo
Can you do auto routing for me?
@copilot Can you do auto routing for me?
5mo
Certainly! To auto-route the PCB, I'll need to ensure that your schematic and netlist connectivity are properly defined and set up. Let's summarize the key connections and then proceed to consider the auto-routing process.
Here's a concise summary of the key parts and connections involved in your project:
Key Parts:

  1. Arduino Uno R3 Shield Template
  2. Load Cells (multiple designators like Load_Cell_1_SDA, Load_Cell_1_SCL, etc.)
  3. Multiplexer ICAdafruit TCA9458A Breakout
Key Nets:

  1. Power Nets: +5V, +3V3, GND, VIN
  2. I2C Communication: SDA, SCL
  3. Load Cell Nets: Various DRDY, SDA, SCL nets for each load cell
Steps to Auto-Route:

  1. Check Net Connections: Ensuring all nets are correctly defined.
  2. Define Board Outline: Ensure the board outline is properly set.
  3. Place Components: Strategically place components to minimize routing complexity.
  4. Run Auto-Router: Execute auto-routing and review the results.
Net Connections:
Here are the key net connections as specified:

  • Power Connections:

    • Connect $+5\text{V}:P1$ to $U1:VIN$, $J2:Pin_5$, $J11:A1$, $J12:A1$, $J13:A1$
    • Connect $GND$ to $U1:GND$, $J2:Pin_6$, $J11:MH3$, $J13:MH3$
  • I2C Connections:

    • Connect $U1:SCL$ to $J3:Pin_{10}$
    • Connect $U1:SDA$ to $J3:Pin_9$
  • Load Cells (Example for one load cell):

    • Connect $Load_Cell_1_SDA:P1$ to $U1:SDA0$, $J11:A5$
    • Connect $Load_Cell_1_SCL:P1$ to $U1:SCL0$, $J11:A7$
    • Connect $Load_Cell_1_DRDY:P1$ to $J4:Pin_3$, $J11:A3$
If everything looks correct, we can proceed to auto-route the design in Flux:

  1. Ensure all necessary connections are defined in the schematic.
  2. Place the components at appropriate positions on the PCB layout, respecting the Arduino shield template.
  3. Run the auto-router tool in Flux.
Since I'm unable to execute this directly within Flux, here's what you need to do:

  1. Open your project in Flux.
  2. Ensure all designators and net connections are correctly defined.
  3. Use the auto-router feature provided by Flux.
Would you like any further guidance or corrections before proceeding?
5mo
Help me with the math. I have a arduino mega that has a pair of 10k ohm pullup r...
@copilot Help me with the math. I have a arduino mega that has a pair of 10k ohm pullup resistor on its i2c lines, the mega is connected to a tca9548 breakout board, which also has a pair of 10k ohm pullup resistor on its input i2c lines. the tca9548 breakout board is connect to a nau7802 breakout board, which also has a pair of 10k ohm pullup resistor on it's input i2c lines. Please help me calculate the total equivilant pullup resistance of the i2c system
6mo
Let's calculate the equivalent pull-up resistance for the I2C line considering the parallel combination of the pull-up resistors.
Given:

  • Each component (Arduino Mega, TCA9548 breakout board, NAU7802 breakout board) has a pair of 10kΩ pull-up resistors.
The pull-up resistors are connected in parallel. The formula for the equivalent resistance $R_{eq}$ of $n$ resistors $R_1, R_2, \ldots, R_n$ in parallel is given by:
1Req=1R1+1R2++1Rn\frac{1}{R_{eq}} = \frac{1}{R_1} + \frac{1}{R_2} + \ldots + \frac{1}{R_n}
In this case, all the resistors have the same value (10kΩ). If we have $n$ resistors of equal value $R$, the formula simplifies to:
Req=RnR_{eq} = \frac{R}{n}
Here, we have 3 devices, each contributing a pair of 10kΩ pull-up resistors for both the SDA and SCL lines.
For each line (SDA and SCL), there are 3 resistors in parallel. Therefore,
Req=10kΩ3R_{eq} = \frac{10k\Omega}{3}
Let's calculate this:
Req=10000Ω3=3333.33Ω3.3kΩR_{eq} = \frac{10000\Omega}{3} = 3333.33\Omega \approx 3.3k\Omega
So, the equivalent pull-up resistance for the I2C system on either the SDA line or SCL line is approximately 3.3kΩ.
6mo
@copilot is putting parallel pullup resistor pairs with higher resistance better than having one pair of pullup resistors with lower resistance? which configuration is better for long-distance, high-speed i2c communication?
6mo
For I²C communication, particularly when dealing with longer distances and higher speeds, choosing the appropriate pull-up resistor configuration is crucial for signal integrity. Let's explore each configuration:
Parallel Pull-up Resistor Pairs with Higher Resistance

  1. Advantages:

    • Reduced Power Consumption: Higher resistance values result in lower current draw, which can be beneficial for power-conservative designs.
    • Distributed Load: Distributing the resistors across multiple points can help spread the heat dissipation and minimize hot spots.
  2. Disadvantages:

    • Higher Impedance: Higher resistance can lead to slower edges (rise time) on the I²C signals, potentially causing timing issues at higher speeds.
    • Risk of Signal Noise: Long lines with higher resistance can be more susceptible to noise, affecting signal integrity.
Single Pair of Pull-up Resistors with Lower Resistance

  1. Advantages:

    • Faster Signal Transitions: Lower resistance results in faster rise times of the pull-up signals, which is critical for high-speed I²C communication.
    • Better Signal Integrity: Lower resistance helps maintain cleaner signal transitions, which is helpful in minimizing noise and reflections, especially over long distances.
  2. Disadvantages:

    • Increased Power Consumption: Lower resistance means higher current through the pull-up resistors, which can lead to higher power consumption.
    • Potential for Higher Heat: More current through the pull-up resistors can result in greater heat generation.
Configuration for Long-Distance, High-Speed I²C Communication
For long-distance and high-speed I²C communication, the key factors to consider are signal integrity and timing. Therefore:

  • Lower Resistance Values are generally preferred to ensure faster signal transitions, thereby maintaining the integrity of the signals at higher speeds.
  • Single Pair of Pull-up Resistors with appropriate lower resistance values (e.g., 2.2kΩ or 4.7kΩ) is often recommended. For longer distances, values between 1kΩ and 4.7kΩ are commonly used, depending on the bus capacitance and speed.
Practical Recommendations:

  1. Adjust Resistance Based on Requirements: For high-speed I²C (up to 1 MHz, or Fast Mode Plus), typically use pull-up resistors in the range of 1kΩ to 4.7kΩ.
  2. Evaluate Bus Capacitance: The total capacitance of the I²C bus (wires and connected devices) plays a significant role in determining the appropriate resistance. Higher capacitance may require lower resistance to maintain adequate rise times.
  3. Experiment and Measure: Practical testing with an oscilloscope to measure rise times and signal integrity in your specific setup is always recommended.
A good rule of thumb:

  • For standard speed (100 kHz) and shorter distances, 10kΩ may be sufficient.
  • For fast speed (400 kHz) and longer distances, consider 4.7kΩ.
  • For high-speed (1 MHz) and long-distances, 2.2kΩ or even 1kΩ might be necessary, but ensure it doesn't lead to excessive current draw or heating.
In conclusion, using a single pair of pull-up resistors with lower resistance values is generally better for long-distance, high-speed I²C communication because it ensures faster rise times and better signal integrity.
6mo
Please tell me how to import the symbol and footprint that I found on easyEDA to...
@copilot Please tell me how to import the symbol and footprint that I found on easyEDA to flux
6mo
To import a symbol and footprint from EasyEDA to Flux, you'll need to follow a few steps. Here’s a concise guide to help you get started:

  1. Export from EasyEDA:

    • Symbol and Footprint: Export the symbol and footprint in a format that Flux can recognize, usually in KiCad format or as a JSON file.
    • Export Steps:

      • Open your component in EasyEDA.
      • Click on the "Export" option in the toolbar.
      • Select "KiCad" or JSON format to export both the symbol and footprint.
  2. Prepare the Files:

    • Make sure the exported files are available on your local system. They will typically be in a .zip archive if exporting for KiCad.
  3. Import to Flux:

    • Log into Flux: Navigate to Flux.ai and log into your account.
    • Create a New Project or Open an Existing One:

      • You can either start a new project or open an existing one where you want to import the symbol and footprint.
    • Import the Files:

      • Navigate to the "Import" functionality within the Flux interface.
      • Choose the option to import KiCad or JSON files.
      • Upload the exported files from EasyEDA. The system will process and convert these files into Flux-compatible formats.
  4. Verification:

    • Once the import is complete, verify that both the symbol and footprint appear correctly in Flux.
    • You can preview and/or modify them if necessary to ensure they meet your project's requirements.
  5. Use the Imported Component:

    • Add the newly imported component to your schematic or PCB layout in Flux by searching for it in your component library.
Example Steps with Interface:

  1. Exporting from EasyEDA: ![Export from EasyEDA](link to image - optional)
  2. Importing to Flux: ![Import to Flux](link to image - optional)
By following these steps, you should be able to successfully transfer your symbol and footprint from EasyEDA to Flux and continue your project without interruptions.
If you encounter any specific issues during the import process, feel free to share more details so I can assist you further!
6mo
@copilot What should I do if the part can only be exported as altium and I don't have it?
6mo
If the part can only be exported from EasyEDA in Altium format and you don't have Altium Designer, you can use some workarounds to import it into Flux:

  1. Use an Online Converter: There are several online converters that can convert Altium files into KiCad, which can then be imported into Flux. One such online tool is the intermediate Step-Up tool, which converts Altium Designer files to KiCad.
  2. Third-party Tools: Tools like EDA2KiCad can help in converting Altium files to KiCad files, which you can then import into Flux.
  3. Community Help: You can ask the EasyEDA community or forums for help. Someone might be willing to convert the file for you, or they may guide you on how to do this without Altium.
Here are more specific steps:
Using an Online Converter:

  1. Export the Altium Files from EasyEDA:

    • Ensure you have the symbol and footprint exported in the Altium format.
    • Typically, they will be in .pcbdoc and .schdoc formats.
  2. Upload to Online Converter:

    • Find an online converter that supports Altium to KiCad conversion. Ensure it's a reputable source.
    • Upload your .pcbdoc and .schdoc files to the converter.
  3. Download the Converted Files:

    • After the conversion is complete, download the converted files, typically provided in the KiCad format (.kicad_pcb for PCB and .lib/.sch for symbols).
  4. Import to Flux:

    • Follow the standard steps to import the KiCad files into Flux as previously described.
Third-party Tool (EDA2KiCad):

  1. Install EDA2KiCad:

    • Download and install the tool from its official repository or source.
    • Ensure all dependencies are met as per the instructions.
  2. Conversion Process:

    • Use EDA2KiCad to convert your Altium files into KiCad format. Follow the tool's usage instructions to perform the conversion.
  3. Verify Conversion:

    • Ensure that the converted files are correctly formatted and contain all the necessary information.
  4. Import to Flux:

    • Use the converted KiCad files to import into Flux as described in the previous steps.
Community Help:

  1. Reach out to the EasyEDA or Flux Community:

    • Post a request in the EasyEDA or Flux forums explaining your situation.
    • Provide the Altium files and ask if someone can help convert them for you.
  2. Follow-up:

    • Once someone provides the converted files, follow the import steps to add them to your Flux project.
Example Links:
By using these methods, you can work around the limitation of not having Altium and still get your components into Flux. Let me know if you need specific help with any step!
6mo
If I have a arduino connect to a tca9548 mux breakout board( short distance) and...
@copilot If I have a arduino connect to a tca9548 mux breakout board( short distance) and then connect to a nau7802 breakout board through a long cable(like 1.5 meter). I need to add a low pull-up resistor to improve the signal integrity. Where should I add this pull-up resistor? should it be between arduino and mux or between mux and nau7802?
6mo
To improve the signal integrity, especially over longer distances, it's generally recommended to place the pull-up resistors closer to the end device. In your case, this would mean adding the pull-up resistors between the TCA9548A multiplexer and the NAU7802. Here are the steps to do that:

  1. Identify the SDA and SCL lines that connect the TCA9548A to the NAU7802.
  2. Choose suitable pull-up resistor values. For a long cable, a typical starting point is 4.7kΩ, but you may need to adjust this based on your specific setup.
  3. Connect the pull-up resistors from the SDA and SCL lines to the VCC (usually 3.3V or 5V, depending on your circuit).
Example Connections

  • Connect a 4.7kΩ resistor from the SDA line between the TCA9548A and NAU7802 to the VCC.
  • Connect a 4.7kΩ resistor from the SCL line between the TCA9548A and NAU7802 to the VCC.
Schematic Overview

  1. Between TCA9548A and NAU7802:

    • Connect U1:SDAx to the NAU:SDA through a 4.7kΩ pull-up resistor to VCC.
    • Connect U1:SCLx to the NAU:SCL through a 4.7kΩ pull-up resistor to VCC.
Example Specific Connection
Assume U1 is the TCA9548A multiplexer with SDA5 and SCL5 connected to the NAU7802:

  • Connect U1:SDA5 to NAU:SDA with a 4.7kΩ pull-up resistor to VCC.
  • Connect U1:SCL5 to NAU:SCL with a 4.7kΩ pull-up resistor to VCC.
Here are some of the exact connections from your project:

  • Net 25: U1:SDA5 to Load_Cell_6_SDA:P1
  • Net 29: U1:SCL5 to Load_Cell_6_SCL:P1
This means you can add a pull-up resistor as follows:

  • Connect a 4.7kΩ resistor from Load_Cell_6_SDA:P1 (SDA) to VCC.
  • Connect a 4.7kΩ resistor from Load_Cell_6_SCL:P1 (SCL) to VCC.
This should help to maintain signal integrity over the 1.5-meter cable. Ensure that the VCC used for the pull-up resistors matches the operational voltage of your I2C bus.
6mo
@copilot if the i2c cable is long, is it recommended to add pull-up resistor on the both side of the end?
6mo
When dealing with long I2C cables, it's essential to maintain signal integrity by properly matching the pull-up resistors. However, adding pull-up resistors on both ends of the cable is not generally recommended because it can lead to increased power consumption and potentially lower the effectiveness of the pull-ups due to the parallel combination reducing the overall resistance.
Here are the steps you should take:

  1. Use Pull-Up Resistors at the Mux Side:

    • Place the pull-up resistors close to the TCA9548A multiplexer or the Arduino side if the noise level is acceptable and there's a short distance between the Arduino and the Mux.
  2. Assessing Signal Quality at Device Side:

    • Measure the signal integrity at the end of the 1.5-meter cable (at the NAU7802 end). If you see degradation or noise, consider increasing the pull-up resistor value or use stronger pull-up resistors.
General Guidelines

  • Typical values: Start with 4.7kΩ resistors, and if needed, lower to 3.3kΩ, or even 2.2kΩ.
  • Single Pull-Up Set: For most applications, placing one set of pull-ups near the MCU or multiplexer is usually sufficient.
  • Bus Capacitance: Keep in mind the I2C bus capacitance, as long cables increase it, and it should generally not exceed 400pF for standard modes.
Placement Specifics in Your Project
For your specific setup:

  • Start with the pull-up resistors near the TCA9548A multiplexer:

    • Connect a 4.7kΩ resistor from U1:SDAx to VCC.
    • Connect a 4.7kΩ resistor from U1:SCLx to VCC.
Example:

  • Connect a 4.7kΩ resistor from U1:SDA5 to VCC.
  • Connect a 4.7kΩ resistor from U1:SCL5 to VCC.
Testing and Adjustment

  1. Test the Signal: After adding the pull-ups at the Mux side, test the signal integrity on the NAU7802 side.
  2. Adjust If Necessary: If the signal is still not stable:

    • Try adjusting the resistor values.
    • If noise persists, consider using shielding for the cable or differential signaling techniques, although these are more complex solutions.
By following this approach, you will improve the likelihood of maintaining signal integrity over the long I2C run.
6mo
@copilot I tried to use the through hole thin film resistor(4.7k ohm) as the i2c pull-up resistors for my prototype system, but the system not only didn't improve in performance, all the i2c communication seemed to fail. does that mean I shouldn't add pull-up resistor or I'm using the wrong type of resistor?
6mo
Using through-hole thin film resistors for I2C pull-up purposes shouldn't fundamentally cause the I2C communication to fail, as long as the resistance value is correct and they are properly connected. Here are some debugging steps and considerations to help identify and solve the potential issues:
Common Issues and Troubleshooting

  1. Incorrect Connection:

    • Ensure the resistors are connected correctly between the SDA/SCL lines and the VCC.
    • Double-check the connections and test continuity to ensure reliable solder joints.
  2. Value of Pull-Up Resistors:

    • 4.7kΩ is a typical value, but depending on the bus capacitance, sometimes lower values (e.g., 3.3kΩ or 2.2kΩ) may be required. However, using too low values can result in higher current consumption and other issues.
    • Calculate the total bus capacitance to confirm that the pull-up value is appropriate.
  3. Type of Resistor:

    • While thin film resistors are usually high precision and stability, check their power rating and characteristics. It's generally more about the resistance value than the type unless specific parasitic effects or ratings are critical in your application.
    • Standard 1/4 watt resistors should be fine for I2C pull-ups.
  4. Electrical Noise:

    • Since you're dealing with longer cables, they can act like antennas picking up noise.
    • Ensure the cables are shielded properly or twisted to reduce noise pickup.
    • Check for proper grounding to minimize noise interference.
  5. I2C Bus Speed:

    • If the bus speed is high (e.g., 400kHz Fast Mode), it might be sensitive to more small issues.
    • Try lowering the I2C communication speed in your Arduino code to see if it improves communication stability.
Steps to Resolve

  1. Verify Connections:

    • Connect U1:SDA5 to Load_Cell_6_SDA:P1 with a 4.7kΩ pull-up resistor to VCC.
    • Connect U1:SCL5 to Load_Cell_6_SCL:P1 with a 4.7kΩ pull-up resistor to VCC.
  2. Check Power Supply:

    • Ensure that the VCC you are connecting the pull-up resistors to is stable and at the correct voltage level (typically 3.3V or 5V depending on your I2C devices).
  3. Test Without Pull-ups:

    • Temporarily remove the pull-up resistors and test the system. If communication works, the issue might be related to pull-up value or connections.
  4. Lower Resistor Values:

    • If the issue persists, try using lower values like 3.3kΩ.
Example Check
Here’s a quick check assuming you are using 3.3V VCC:

  • SDA Line:

    • Disconnect the wire connecting U1:SDA5 and Load_Cell_6_SDA:P1.
    • Measure the voltage at U1:SDA5 and ensure it's pulled to 3.3V.
  • SCL Line:

    • Disconnect the wire connecting U1:SCL5 and Load_Cell_6_SCL:P1.
    • Measure the voltage at U1:SCL5 and ensure it's pulled to 3.3V.
Final Note
Ensure that during your measurements and checking, your I2C devices are powered on. If everything checks out and there is still failure, examining the entire I2C bus with an oscilloscope could provide more insight into where the signal integrity might be degraded.
By carefully following these steps, you should be able to diagnose and resolve the issues with your I2C communication.
6mo
I'm using the arduino shield template but now I want to change the shape of the ...
@copilot I'm using the arduino shield template but now I want to change the shape of the shield board. How can I do this?
6mo
To change the shape of your Arduino shield board in Flux, follow these steps:

  1. Open Your Project: Go to Flux and open the shield project where you want to modify the board outline.
  2. Edit Board Outline:

    • Select the "Outline" designator in the components panel or directly on the PCB layout.
    • You can modify the points of the outline by moving existing vertices or adding new ones. Click and drag on the vertices to adjust the shape.
    • To add a new vertex, click on the outline where you want the new point to appear.
    • To delete a vertex, select it and press the "Delete" key on your keyboard.
  3. Drawing Custom Shapes:

    • If you want to draw a completely custom shape, you can use the Drawing Tool to create lines and arcs that form your desired outline.
    • Remember to close the shape by connecting the end of your line or arc to the starting point.
  4. Adjusting Dimensions:

    • If you need specific dimensions, you can use the Dimension Tool to measure distances and angles accurately.
    • Adjust the vertices to match your required dimensions.
  5. Save Your Changes:

    • Once you have your desired board shape, save your project to ensure your changes are not lost.
By following these steps, you can customize the shape of the Arduino shield board to fit your specific project requirements. If you have any complex shapes or specific constraints, let me know, and I can provide more detailed guidance.
6mo
@copilot What's the problem if I couldn't edit the board outline? I can't make any change to the fab shapes
6mo
If you are unable to edit the board outline or make changes to the fab shapes in Flux, here are a few potential issues and their solutions:

  1. Layer Lock: The board outline or fab shape might be locked.

    • Solution: Check if the "Outline" designator or the board layer is locked. If it is, unlock it to allow editing.
  2. Selection Tool: You might not be using the correct tool for selecting and editing the outline.

    • Solution: Ensure you are using the correct selection or editing tool. Usually, the PCB editor has specific tools for selecting and modifying board outlines.
  3. Permissions: Your project settings might restrict modifications to certain elements.

    • Solution: Check the project settings and make sure that you have the necessary permissions to edit the board outline.
  4. Designator Properties: The properties of the "Outline" or fab shapes designator might be set to exclude changes.

    • Solution: Check the properties of the designator and ensure that it is not set to exclude from PCB or locked.
  5. Software Issue: There might be a temporary glitch or issue with the CAD software.

    • Solution: Try saving your project, refreshing the browser, or restarting the software.
  6. Layer Visibility: The specific layer for board outlines or fab shapes might be hidden.

    • Solution: Ensure that the layer visibility settings are enabled for the board outline or fab shapes layer.
Here are the steps to troubleshoot and resolve these issues in Flux:

  1. Check for Layer Lock:

    • Navigate to the layer or designator properties and verify if the layer is locked. Unlock it if necessary.
  2. Select the Correct Tool:

    • Make sure you are in the PCB editor and have selected the appropriate tool for editing outlines. Typically, there should be a "Select" or "Edit" tool.
  3. Verify Permissions:

    • Go to the project settings or properties panel and ensure you have edit permissions. Modify permissions if needed.
  4. Review Designator Properties:

    • Click on the "Outline" designator and check its properties. Ensure it's not set to exclude from PCB or locked.
  5. Refresh or Restart:

    • Save your work, refresh the browser, or restart Flux.ai.
  6. Adjust Layer Visibility:

    • Open the layers panel and ensure that the board outline or fab shapes layer is visible.
If all else fails, you might want to consider exporting your project and re-importing it into a new Flux project as a last resort. This can sometimes resolve persistent issues by resetting the project environment. If you need further assistance, please let me know with more details about the issue you're facing, and I can provide additional help.
6mo
How do I import a kicad symbol that I found on the internet to my current porje...
@copilot How do I import a kicad symbol that I found on the internet to my current porject?
6mo
To import a KiCad symbol to your Flux project, you will usually need to follow these steps:

  1. Download the KiCad Symbol: Ensure that you have the KiCad symbol file (.lib file or a .kicad_sym file) downloaded from the internet.
  2. Convert the Symbol to a Format Compatible with Flux: If your KiCad symbol is in the new KiCad 6 format (.kicad_sym), you can import it directly. If it is in the older format (.lib), you may need to convert it first.
  3. Importing the Symbol to Flux:

    • Open your project in Flux.
    • Navigate to the library panel and choose to import a new symbol.
    • Upload your KiCad symbol file.
  4. Placing the Symbol in Your Schematic:

    • Once imported, you can search for the symbol in your Flux library.
    • Drag and drop the symbol onto your schematic.
Let's briefly go through each step in more detail.
Step-by-Step Guide:

  1. Download the KiCad Symbol:

    • Locate and download the necessary KiCad symbol file from the internet.
  2. Convert the Symbol (if needed):

    • To convert a .lib file to .kicad_sym, you can open the symbol in KiCad 5.x and then re-save it in KiCad 6.x to convert it automatically.
    • Alternatively, use any compatible tool or script to convert the .lib file to .kicad_sym.
  3. Import the Symbol to Flux:

    • Open your Flux project in your browser.
    • Go to the Library panel. Usually, this is found on the left side of the interface.
    • Look for an option to Import Symbol or Upload Symbol.
    • Select and upload your .kicad_sym file.
  4. Place the Symbol in Your Schematic:

    • After importing, the symbol will be available in your Flux library.
    • Use the search bar in the library pane to find your symbol.
    • Drag and drop the symbol onto your schematic to place it.
Example:

  1. Download Symbol: Let's assume you have downloaded a KiCad symbol for a component like ESP32-WROOM-32.
  2. Convert (if needed):

    • Open the symbol in KiCad 5.x if it's a .lib file.
    • Save it in KiCad 6.x to convert it to .kicad_sym.
  3. Import to Flux:

    • In Flux, navigate to Library panel -> Import Symbol.
    • Upload your .kicad_sym file.
  4. Place on Schematic:

    • Search for the symbol in the Flux library.
    • Drag and drop the symbol onto your schematic.
If you encounter any specific issues during these steps or need more detailed guidance on a particular step, feel free to ask!
6mo
How many current does a NAU7802 IC consume?
@copilot How many current does a NAU7802 IC consume?
6mo
The NAU7802 is a low-power 24-bit ADC (Analog-to-Digital Converter) typically used for applications such as load cells in weight scales and battery-operated devices.
According to the NAU7802 datasheet, the current consumption of this IC varies depending on its operating mode:

  1. In active mode, the typical current consumption is approximately 400 µA.
  2. In standby mode, the current consumption drops to around 1 µA.
These values make it suitable for battery-operated applications where low power consumption is critical.
6mo
The Texas Instruments TCA9458A is a 2-Channel Multi-Protocol Serial Transceiver. The typical current consumption of the TCA9458A depends on its mode of operation:

  • Active mode, typically the current consumption is around 1.2 mA (typical value).
  • Shutdown mode, the current consumption drops to a very low value.
To be specific, here are the values from the TCA9458A datasheet:

  • Transceiver Active (both channels active): 1.2 mA (typical).
  • Shutdown mode: < 1 µA.
This makes the TCA9458A suitable for low-power applications where power conservation is a concern when the device is not actively transmitting data.
If you need any specific information or details for your project, such as interfacing these components with an Arduino or designing a PCB layout, feel free to let me know!
6mo
how about a TCA9458A chip?
6mo
The Adafruit LTC4311 is a Breakout Board featuring the LTC4311 chip, which is a Hot Swappable I2C Bus Buffer. Here is a summary of its operating current:

  1. Standby Mode: Typically consumes about 500 µA.
  2. Active Mode: The current consumption can range up to 1 mA, depending on the bus capacitance and activity.
This makes it suitable for various I2C applications where you might want to buffer or isolate parts of your I2C network, especially in scenarios where hot-swapping is required.
If you need help with interfacing this breakout board with Arduino or including it in your PCB design, let me know!
6mo
how about a Adafruit LTC4311 breakout?
6mo
To determine if an Arduino Mega can power all your components without external power, we'll need to calculate the total current consumption of your system and compare it to the current supply capabilities of the Arduino Mega.
Here’s the breakdown of current consumption per component:

  1. NAU7802:

    • Active mode: 400 µA each
    • Total for 6 NAU7802: $6 \times 400 , \mu \text{A} = 2400 , \mu \text{A} = 2.4 , \text{mA}$
  2. LTC4311:

    • Active mode: Up to 1 mA each
    • Total for 6 LTC4311: $6 \times 1 , \text{mA} = 6 , \text{mA}$
  3. TCA9458A:

    • Active mode: 1.2 mA
Total current consumption: 2.4mA+6mA+1.2mA=9.6mA2.4 \, \text{mA} + 6 \, \text{mA} + 1.2 \, \text{mA} = 9.6 \, \text{mA}
The Arduino Mega's 5V pin can supply up to 500 mA from the onboard regulator when USB powered and more when powered through the barrel jack (regulated by an external adapter). The 3.3V pin can supply around 50 mA.
Given the total current consumption of your components (which is approximately 9.6 mA), the Arduino Mega can easily power your setup without needing an external power supply, provided the total current draw from all devices connected doesn’t exceed the limits of the Arduino Mega's voltage regulators.
Summary

  • Total current required: 9.6 mA
  • Arduino Mega 5V pin supply: 500 mA (USB powered)
  • Arduino Mega can safely power your 6 NAU7802, 6 LTC4311, and 1 TCA9458A without needing an external power supply.
Additional Considerations

  • Ensure you account for any other peripherals connected to the Arduino.
  • If you are running other high-power components, you may want to re-evaluate the total power budget.
If you have any additional details or need specific connections within your Arduino Mega project, let me know!
6mo
if my system has 6 nau7802, 6 LTC4311 breakout board, and 1 TCA9458 chip, can the arduino MEGA power all of them without an external power?
6mo
How do I create a pin footprint for a breakout board that is not in the library?
@copilot How do I create a pin footprint for a breakout board that is not in the library?
6mo
Creating a pin footprint for a breakout board that isn't in the library involves several steps. Here's a general guide to help you accomplish this:

  1. Gather Specifications: Obtain the datasheet or technical drawing of the breakout board. This will provide detailed information about the physical dimensions, pin layout, and other important specifications.
  2. Open Flux: Login to your Flux.ai account and open the project where you want to create the footprint.
  3. Component Creation:

    • Go to the Library tab.
    • Click on "Create New Component."
  4. Define Component Properties:

    • Enter basic information such as the component name, category, and description.
    • Specify the number of pins and their names (if not already listed in the datasheet).
  5. Draw the Footprint:

    • Use the coordinate system to place pads or pins. Refer to the dimensions and pin spacing from the datasheet.
    • Ensure that the footprint matches the dimensions of the breakout board accurately.
  6. Assign Pins:

    • Label each pin according to the datasheet.
    • Ensure you specify pin 1 correctly and follow the correct orientation.
  7. Add Silkscreen and Assembly Layers (optional but recommended):

    • Draw the outline of the breakout board for better placement accuracy.
    • Add reference marks that can help in assembly and verification.
  8. Save and Verify: Save the footprint and double-check to ensure all pins are accurately placed and labeled.
Example Walkthrough for a Hypothetical 10-Pin Breakout Board:
Let's assume you have a breakout board with 10 pins in two rows, spaced 0.1 inches apart.

  1. Open Flux and create a new component, naming it 10-Pin Breakout.
  2. Define Properties:

    • Category: Connectors.
    • Number of pins: 10.
  3. Draw Footprint:

    • Place 10 pad shapes.
    • Arrange them in two rows of 5 pins each, 0.1 inches apart.
  4. Assign Pins:

    • Name the pins according to the breakout board (e.g., Pin1 to Pin10).
  5. Add Silkscreen:

    • Draw the outline of the breakout board.
    • Add a marker for pin 1.
  6. Save and verify accuracy.
Implementation in Flux:

  1. Open your project and go to the library.
  2. Create a New Component:

    • Fill in the basic information.
  3. Add Pins:

    • Click on “Add Pin”.
    • Define the number of pins and their names (Pin_1, Pin_2, ..., Pin_10).
  4. Edit Footprint:

    • Use the grid to place each pin accurately.
    • Draw the outline of the breakout board on the silkscreen layer.
  5. Save the component.
Example Pins Placement Table

Table


Pin NumberX-coordinateY-coordinate
Pin 100
Pin 20.1 inch0
Pin 30.2 inch0
Pin 40.3 inch0
Pin 50.4 inch0
Pin 60-0.1 inch
Pin 70.1 inch-0.1 inch
Pin 80.2 inch-0.1 inch
Pin 90.3 inch-0.1 inch
Pin 100.4 inch-0.1 inch
Example KaTeX Coordinates
Make sure to specify the coordinates while placing pins in Flux:
Pin1:(0,0)Pin2:(0.1 inch,0)Pin3:(0.2 inch,0)andsoonPin_1: (0, 0) Pin_2: (0.1 \text{ inch}, 0) Pin_3: (0.2 \text{ inch}, 0) --and so on--
By following these steps, you can create a footprint for your breakout board in Flux. If you need further assistance or specific details, feel free to ask!
6mo
You can create a new component directly within the project that you're currently working on in Flux. Here's a streamlined step-by-step guide for doing this:

  1. Open Your Project in Flux.ai:

    • Navigate to your existing project where you'd like to add the new component.
  2. Access the Component Library:

    • Within your project, find and click on the "Library" tab or section.
    • Look for an option like "Create New Component" or a similar action button.
  3. Create the New Component:

    • Component Details:

      • Name your component appropriately.
      • Select or create a suitable category if needed.
      • Fill in other component properties like description and tags.
    • Define Pins:

      • Enter the number of pins for your breakout board.
      • Name each pin according to the breakout board’s pins (e.g., Pin_1, Pin_2, etc.).
  4. Draw the Footprint:

    • Place Pads:

      • Use the provided tools to accurately place the pad shapes corresponding to the pins of the breakout board.
      • Reference the pin layout and dimensions from the datasheet.
    • Assign Pins:

      • Label each pad correctly (Pin_1, Pin_2, etc.).
    • Add Silkscreen and Outline:

      • Draw the outline of the breakout board.
      • Add silkscreen text or markers if needed, such as a designation mark for Pin 1.
  5. Save the Component:

    • Save your new component within the project.
  6. Verify the Footprint:

    • Double-check the dimensions and pin placements to ensure accuracy.
Example Process For a Hypothetical 8-Pin Breakout Board:

  1. Open Your Existing Project in Flux.
  2. Create New Component:

    • Click on "Library" → "Create New Component".
    • Name it "8-Pin Breakout".
    • Enter properties and click "Next".
  3. Define Pins:

    • Set the number of pins to 8.
    • Name the pins as Pin_1, Pin_2, ... Pin_8.
  4. Draw Footprint:

    • Use the footprint editor to place the pins.
    • For example, if pins are in a single row spaced 0.1 inches apart:

      • Pin_1: (0,0)(0, 0)
      • Pin_2: (0.1 inch,0)(0.1 \text{ inch}, 0)
      • Pin_3: (0.2 inch,0)(0.2 \text{ inch}, 0)
      • ...
  5. Add Silkscreen:

    • Draw the board outline.
    • Add a marker for Pin 1.
  6. Save:

    • Click on Save and ensure your component is now in the library.
Once saved, you can use this component directly in your project by dragging it from the library into your schematic or PCB layout.
Summary

  • No need to create a new project.
  • Create the component within your current project using the library tools.
  • Define pins, draw the footprint accurately, and save the component.
If you follow these steps, you'll be able to successfully add a new component and its footprint to the project you're currently working on in Flux.
6mo
I'm a little bit confused, do I need to create a new project my the new components, or can I just create the component within the project that I'm working on?
6mo
How do I create a pin footprint for a breakout board that is not in the library?
How do I create a pin footprint for a breakout board that is not in the library?
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