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DisplayPort
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The display has its own regulator + level shifter. For this reason we give it 5V supply. The digital I/O should use 3.3v thanks to the level shifter. We use its regulator output to power the LEDs, to avoid stressing the Pico regulator.
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please explain what ENCODER does.

@copilot my midi needs a USB connection. Let's make the necessary connection.
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Sure, I can help you with that. If you're looking to connect your Raspberry Pi Pico (designator PICO) to a USB MIDI device, you'll need a USB breakout board. However, it seems that there is no USB component in your project yet.
If you had such a component, you would connect it as follows:

  1. Connect the USB breakout board's VCC pin to the Pico's VSYS or VBUS pin
  2. Connect the USB breakout board's GND pin to any of the PICO's GND pin
  3. Connect the USB breakout board's D- pin to the PICO's USB D- pin (which it doesn't have)
  4. Connect the USB breakout board's D+ pin to the PICO's USB D+ pin (which it doesn't have)
Unfortunately, I don't see USB D+ or USB D- pins on your Raspberry Pi Pico (designator PICO) in your description. This might be due to the board version or the way your PICO is represented in the schematic provided. If your board does have these connections available (e.g. on a micro USB B port or as exposed pins), make sure they're included in your project components and connections for an accurate connectivity assessment.
If these pins aren't available in the version of the board you're using, you might need to consider a different version of the board or a module that provides these pins.
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@copilot please explain what ENCODER does.
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The ENCODER in your project is a rotary encoder, specifically a Bourns PEC11R-4215F-S0024. It's an electromechanical device that can convert the angular position or motion of a shaft into analog or digital output signals.
In your design, it's likely being used for user input. For example, it may be manipulating some parameter on the PiStrument like volume, pitch, sample selection, etc.
It has two signal outputs (A and B) that can be used to determine the direction of rotation and one output (~) for the integrated push button. These outputs are usually connected to the GPIOs of a microcontroller, in your case to GPIO27_ADC1, GPIO28_ADC2, and GPIO22 on the Raspberry Pi Pico (PICO). It's a handy part to use in an interface where a potentiometer might otherwise be used, but continuous rotation or an integrated switch are necessary.
Its advantage is that it can fully rotate without stops (unlike potentiometers). And by observing its output, it can determine both the direction of rotation and the degrees of rotation. The latter could be useful to make a selection from a list of options (e.g., sound samples) or increment/decrement a value with precision (e.g., volume or pitch).
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@copilot help what do I need to connect a midi organ to the project
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If you wish to connect a MIDI organ to your project, you'll need a microcontroller that can process MIDI data. Here, your Raspberry Pi Pico can be used for this purpose. You'll need to establish a MIDI interface between your MIDI organ and the Pico. This will typically be done through a standard 5-pin DIN MIDI connector or through a USB connection.
To use the Raspberry Pi Pico to receive and interpret MIDI messages, you will require additional software. You can write a MIDI handler in MicroPython or C/C++. Midiutils could be a good library to use if you decide to write your software in C/C++.
Now, because MIDI operates at a 31.25 kbaud rate, which doesn't match any standard UART baud rates, you'll need a MIDI to UART bridge or a driver that can handle the non-standard baud rate.
For traditional 5-pin DIN MIDI interface, here are the electrical connections you need to make:

  • Use an opto-isolator such as the 6N138, which is standard for MIDI inputs. It helps eliminate ground loops and isolates your Raspberry Pi Pico.
  • Connect the MIDI In (PIN 4) to the cathode of a diode, and anode to the voltage source.
  • Connect the emitter of the opto-isolator to GND.
  • Connect the collector to the RX pin (any GPIO can be used) on the Raspberry Pi Pico via a resistor.
  • The RX pin should also be connected to the voltage source via a pull-up resistor.
If you are using USB MIDI, you won't need to worry about the above hardware setup. But you will need to handle the USB host functionality. Unfortunately, the Raspberry Pi Pico doesn't natively support USB Host functionality, so you would need a separate chip for that, such as the USB Host Shield, along with a MIDI USB library that can run on the Raspberry Pi Pico.
Please note: it's important to power off all the equipment before making any connections and follow safety precautions.
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create a high level mermaid block diagram of this project. Include key component...

@copilot create a high level mermaid block diagram of this project. Include key component's manufacturer part number in each block whenever possible.
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Here we are using the USB 5V as power supply but 3.3V logic from the pico. Every...

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Here we are using the USB 5V as power supply but 3.3V logic from the pico. Every one of them is an input and 3.3v tolerant so it should be ok.
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what is controller ?

@copilot what is controller ?
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The controller in the user's project is a Raspberry Pi Pico, designated as PICO. It's a small, low-cost microcontroller board with flexible digital interfaces.
Here are some of its features:

  • Dual-core Arm Cortex M0+ processor
  • 2MB of Flash memory
  • 26 multifunction GPIO pins, including 3 analog inputs
  • A variety of interfacing options, such as I2C, SPI, and UART.
It's great for learning electronics and programming, rapid prototyping of IoT projects, and building low-cost embedded systems.
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@docbrown, tell me more about this project?

@docbrown, tell me more about this project?
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What this circuits does ?

@copilot What this circuits does ?
9mo
This circuit is designed to function as a Raspberry Pi Pico-based musical instrument, specifically a sampler, sequencer, and drum machine, drawing inspiration from the iconic TR-808 synthesizer. Here's a breakdown of its functionality based on the components and connections outlined in the project:
Core Components and Their Functions:

  • Raspberry Pi Pico (Designator: PICO): Acts as the brain of the device, controlling the sequencing, sound synthesis, and user interaction based on the programming loaded into it. The wide range of GPIO pins on the Pico are utilized for interfacing with various peripherals.
  • Momentary Step Switches (Designators: B0 to B8): These switches likely serve as input for triggering samples or sequences, allowing users to program and control the rhythm.
  • Adafruit I2S Amplifier (Designator: MicroAmp): Amplifies audio signals to drive the speaker, enabling the output of sounds generated or sampled by the device.
  • Embedded Speaker (Designator: Speaker): Outputs the audio signals processed by the Pico and amplified by the I2S amplifier, producing the actual sound that can be heard by users.
  • Display (Designator: Display): Provides a visual interface for the user, probably showing parameters, sequences, or other important information to aid in the operation of the device.
  • SIPO (Serial-In, Parallel-Out) Shift Register (Designator: SIPO1): Is used to expand the number of digital outputs of the Pico, likely to control more LEDs or other indicators without occupying many GPIO pins.
  • Rotary Encoder (Designator: ENCODER): Allows users to navigate through menus or adjust parameters smoothly, contributing to the overall user interface.
Functionality Overview:
The device allows users to:

  • Create rhythms and sequences using the momentary switches that emulate the step-sequencing functionality of a drum machine.
  • Manipulate sounds or control parameters through the rotary encoder, providing a tactile interface for real-time sound shaping or navigation.
  • View sequences, samples, and operational modes on the display, enhancing usability and interaction.
  • Hear the produced musical patterns through the embedded speaker, making it a standalone instrument with auditory feedback.
Connections between the components, such as those leading to the amplifier and speaker for sound output and to the switches and encoders for input, are specifically designed to enable this functionality. The use of a microcontroller like the Raspberry Pi Pico allows for programmable and flexible software implementations that can emulate classic devices like the TR-808 or introduce new digital instruments based on the requirements and creativity of the user.
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list all ICs and the decoupling capacitors attached to each. Ensure to include a...

@copilot list all ICs and the decoupling capacitors attached to each. Ensure to include all ICs present in the design, including digital ICs, power converters, LDOs, etc. For every IC, clearly state:

  • What power net the decoupling capacitors are attached to. What is the stated voltage of that net.
  • The voltage rating and value of the attached decoupling capacitors.
  • Signal with the expression “[WARNING]” if any of the following conditions are met: no decoupling capacitors are attached; the voltage of the power net is higher than the voltage rating of the capacitor; No voltage range was stated for the capacitor. Give a separate “[WARNING]” for each condition. Signal with the expression “[OK]” if none of those conditions are met
  • Express the result in a markdown-formatted table
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explain this project.

@copilot explain this project.
10mo
This project, named PiStrument, is a creative endeavor to design a Raspberry Pi Pico-based musical instrument that integrates the functionalities of a sampler, sequencer, and drum machine, taking inspiration from the iconic TR-808 synthesizer. The design utilizes various components, including an embedded speaker for audio output, an Adafruit I2S amplifier for sound amplification, and momentary step switches for operation. Below is a simplified breakdown:
Core Components:

  • Raspberry Pi Pico (Designator: PICO): Serves as the brain of the instrument, handling digital signal processing, user inputs, and controlling other components.
  • Momentary Step Switches (Designators: B0, B1, B2, B3, B4, B5, B6, B7, B8): These are used for input, similar to the step sequencer buttons on a drum machine, allowing the user to program sequences and trigger sounds.
  • Adafruit I2S Amplifier (Designator: MicroAmp): This component amplifies the audio signal generated by the PICO before it's sent to the speaker.
  • Embedded Speaker (Designator: Speaker): Outputs the audio signals as sound, allowing the user to hear the sequenced beats or samples directly from the device.
  • Display (Designator: Display): Provides a visual interface for the user, potentially to navigate through menus, adjust settings, or visualize sequences.
  • Rotary Encoder (Designator: ENCODER, Model: PEC11R-4215F-S0024): Offers input for navigating the interface or adjusting parameters within the PiStrument.
  • SIPO (Serial-In Parallel-Out) Register (Designator: SIPO1, Model: SN74HC595N): Used to increase the number of outputs from the PICO, facilitating control over multiple LEDs or other indicators without exhausting all GPIO pins on the PICO.
Design Features:

  • Integration with Standard and Power Nets: Various nets are defined to organize connections, like power distribution (VCC5v, VCC3v3_LCD) and ground connections (numerous GND designations) efficiently across the project.
  • LEDs in Switches: Most of the buttons (B0, B1, B2, etc.) have designated pins for LED control, allowing visual feedback through lighting, which enhances user interaction.
  • Sound Generation and Amplification: Through the DAC AMP (Designator: DAC AMP) component and an external amplifier (MicroAmp), the system is capable of producing complex audio signals. The Raspberry Pi Pico, with its GPIO capabilities, interfaces with these components to generate sounds.
Connectivity and Controls:
A significant part of the project involves connecting these components through logical nets to ensure they communicate effectively, power distribution is managed, and user input is accurately captured and processed. This includes specific nets for power distribution, ground connections, data transfer for the display, audio signal paths, and control signals for toggling LEDs and interfacing with the rotary encoder.
Final Objective:
The project aims to create a portable, versatile musical instrument that combines the nostalgic feel of classic drum machines with modern microcontroller technology, enabling users to create music interactively.
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How this circuits works ?

@copilot How this circuits works ?
9mo
The PiStrument project described is a multifunctional device based on the Raspberry Pi Pico, designed as a sampler, sequencer, and drum machine, inspired by the iconic TR-808 synthesizer. It incorporates various components including an embedded speaker, an Adafruit I2S amplifier, momentary step switches, and more. Let's break down its operation focusing on key components and nets:
Raspberry Pi Pico (PICO)
The Raspberry Pi Pico serves as the brain of the PiStrument. It controls various peripherals through its GPIO pins and manages the audio processing required for the sampler and drum machine functionalities.
Buttons (B0, B1, ... B8)
These momentary step switches provide user input. They could be used to trigger samples, change sequences, or modify drum machine patterns. Each button has output pins connected to specific GPIO pins on the Raspberry Pi Pico for input detection.
Encoder (ENCODER)
The rotary encoder allows for menu navigation, parameter adjustment, or any other cyclic input needed in the device’s operation.
MicroAmp (MicroAmp)
This component amplifies the audio signal before being sent to the speaker. The Pi Pico sends the audio output, which is then amplified and delivered to the speaker, enabling sound playback.
DAC AMP (DAC AMP)
The Digital to Analog Converter (DAC) and amplifier module is crucial for converting digital audio signals from the Pi Pico into analog signals that can drive the speaker to produce sound.
Display (Display)
The display is likely used to show the current state of the device, such as the selected sound, current pattern, or settings. The Pi Pico controls the display via SPI and other control pins.
Speaker (Speaker)
The speaker outputs the sound. Its input is connected to the DAC AMP, which provides the analog signal converted from the digital audio signals processed by the Pi Pico.
Serial-in Parallel-out Shift Register (SIPO1)
The SN74HC595N serial-in parallel-out shift register expands the GPIO capabilities of the Raspberry Pi Pico by converting serial input to parallel output. This is useful for controlling multiple LEDs or reading from multiple buttons with fewer GPIO pins.
Power Supply
The VCC5v and VCC3v3_LCD nets indicate power supplies for different components. The Raspberry Pi Pico, likely powered by the USB input (VBUS), distributes 3.3V and 5V to various components as needed.
Operation Flow

  1. User Input: Through buttons and the encoder, the user can interact with PiStrument, selecting different modes, sounds, or sequences.
  2. Signal Processing: The Raspberry Pi Pico processes these inputs, generating or modifying audio signals accordingly. This may involve playing a sample, starting a sequence, or modifying parameters.
  3. Audio Output: Digital audio signals are sent to the DAC AMP, converted to analog, amplified, and played out through the speaker.
  4. Visual Feedback: The display shows information related to the current operations, selections, and settings, providing visual feedback to the user.
This circuit cleverly combines input devices, processing power, and output components to create a versatile musical instrument. The use of GPIO expanders and efficient power distribution enables a compact yet powerful design.
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explain this project.

@copilot explain this project.
1y
This project, named PiStrument, is a RaspberryPi Pico-based sampler, sequencer, and drum machine, which pays homage to the famous TR808 synthesizer. Some specific characteristics of the project include an embedded speaker, an Adafruit I2S amplifier, and momentary step switches.
Here's an overview of the key components used in the project:

  1. Raspberry Pi Pico: This is a microcontroller board based on Arm’s Cortex-M0+ cores and is the brain of the project.
  2. Switches (B0, B1, B2, B3, B4, B5, B6, B7, B8): These are momentary step switches. They input sequences into the drum machine. Each button also includes an LED indicator. The URL for these switches leads to adafruit's product page, which means these are probably Adafruit's soft tactile buttons with built-in LEDs.
  3. Resistors (R1, R2, R3, R4, R5, R6, R7, R8, R9): These resistors likely limit the current flowing through various parts of the circuit.
  4. SN74HC595N (Designator: SIPO1): This is a serial-in, parallel-out shift register. The SN74HC595N is commonly used for extending the number of outputs in a microcontroller. In this case, it appears to be controlling the LEDs in the switches, since its outputs are connected through resistors to the LEDs.
  5. Encoder (Designator: ENCODER): This could be a rotary encoder used for menu control or parameter adjustments. It has signal lines (A and B) that are wired to GPIO inputs on the Raspberry Pi Pico.
  6. Adafruit I2S Amp (Designator: DAC AMP): This is a digital audio amplifier. The I2S (Inter-IC Sound) protocol carried by the Raspberry Pi Pico is used as the input to this amp. Its output feeds into the next component, the Speaker.
  7. Speaker (Designator: Speaker): This is the output device for the audio generated by the project.
  8. Display (Designator: Display): This is probably used to display sequences and status info to the user. The datasheet URL indicates an Adafruit display, which most like uses an SPI interface to communicate with the Pico.
  9. Micro Amp (Designator: MicroAmp): The Micro Amp might be used to further amplify the audio signal before it is sent to the speaker.
In summary, this project appears to be a musical instrument based on the Raspberry Pi Pico microcontroller, which generates and plays back sequences of sounds, with the capability for the user to input sequences using momentary step switches. The generated sequences are played back through a speaker.
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explain this project.
@copilot explain this project.
3mo
The PiStrument project is a Raspberry Pi Pico-based sampler, sequencer, and drum machine. It is designed to resemble the TR-808 synthesizer with an embedded speaker, an I2S amplifier from Adafruit, and momentary step switches.
Here's a breakdown of the key components and their roles in the project:

  1. Raspberry Pi Pico (Designator: PICO):

    • Acts as the main microcontroller for the project.
    • Handles input/output operations, processing, and sequencing tasks.
  2. Momentary Step Switches (Designators: B0, B1, B2, B3, B4, B5, B6, B7, B8):

    • Used for creating the step-sequencer functionality similar to the TR-808 synthesizer.
  3. MicroAmp (Designator: MicroAmp) & DAC Amplifier (Designator: DAC AMP):

    • Used to drive the embedded speaker by amplifying audio signals.
  4. Speaker (Designator: Speaker):

    • Outputs the sound generated by the drum machine.
  5. Adafruit I2S Amplifier (Designator: MicroAmp):

    • Provides the capability to play sound by connecting to the Raspberry Pi Pico via I2S interface.
  6. Display (Designator: Display):

    • An optional display used to show information such as patterns or settings.
  7. Rotary Encoder (Designator: ENCODER):

    • Provides input for parameter changes or to navigate through menus.
  8. Shift Registers - SN74HC595N\text{SN74HC595N} (Designator: SIPO1):

    • Used to expand the number of outputs from the Pico and control LEDs or other components as needed.
  9. Power Nets (Designators: VCC5v, VCC3v3_LCD):

    • Provide power supply distribution to different components.
  10. Resistors (Designators: R1, R2, R3, R4, R5, R6, R7, R8, R9):

    • Provide pull-up/pull-down functionality and current limiting for LEDs and other components.
  11. Miscellaneous Components:

    • Other small components such as reset switches and additional nets for specific connections.
The project integrates various components to allow the Raspberry Pi Pico to control sound playback and sequencing operations, typical of a drum machine setup like the TR-808. The connections between components enable the Pico to handle audio processing, user interaction via buttons and encoders, and visual output through LEDs or a display.
3mo
how do I use Flux?
@copilot how do I use Flux?
4mo
Getting started with Flux involves a few key steps:

  1. Create a Flux Account: Sign up for a Flux account on their website.
  2. Navigate the Interface: Once logged in, you'll find the main interface where you can create new projects. Familiarize yourself with the toolbar and features.
  3. Create a New Project: Start a new project by selecting the option to create a new schematic or PCB. This will open a blank canvas where you can begin your design.
  4. Place Components: Drag components from the library onto the canvas. You can search for specific components or browse through categories[1].
  5. Connect Components: Use the wiring tool to connect different components. This is how you define the electrical connections between the parts.
  6. Simulate Your Design: You can use Flux's built-in simulator to test your design and see how it performs under different conditions. There's a tutorial available if you want to learn more about how the simulator works[2].
  7. Get Help: If you need assistance, the best place is the Flux Slack community, where you can ask questions and interact with other users[3].
These steps should help you get started on your first project in Flux. If you have specific questions or run into issues, feel free to ask!
4mo
are there any issues in this project?
@copilot are there any issues in this project?
4mo
Let's review the project to ensure everything aligns with typical design practices and conventions:

  1. Multiple Designators:

    • There are multiple components with the same designator, e.g., B0, B1, B2, B3, B4, B5, B6, B7, B8, VCC3v3_LCD, and VCC5v, which could lead to ambiguity and errors in the layout and assembly process. Unique designators should be implemented for each component.
  2. Non-Excluded Route Branch Points:

    • There are elements with undefined fields marked as "Route Branch Point" that lack defined purpose or exclusion information. It could be causing confusion if not intentionally added for routing.
  3. Power Nets:

    • Power nets, such as VCC5v and VCC3v3_LCD, should not be excluded from the BOM or PCB as it can lead to integration issues. While they might serve as logical placeholders, care should be taken to ensure real power supply lines are defined correctly.
  4. Connections:

    • The connections or pins used in the nets seem to be correctly established. Detailed schematic review helps assure functional connection; make sure each net corresponds to planned signals or power lines.
  5. Excluded Components:

    • Several components are marked as "Exclude from BOM" and "Exclude from PCB." Ensure these components are intentionally excluded, as it will affect the final assembly and orders.
  6. Unused Pins:

    • Ensure all necessary signals are connected and that any unused pins are appropriately terminated as per the specifications in the datasheet.
To refine the project:

  • Assign unique designators to components currently sharing the same.
  • Verify the connection list to ensure it reflects your intended functionality.
  • Review power supply nets to ensure they are properly defined and not excluded from essential design documents.
If you have any questions or need deeper insight into specific parts of the project, feel free to ask!
4mo
where's the ground?
@copilot where's the ground?
5mo
¿Para qué sirve esto?
4mo
Este proyecto, llamado PiStrument, es un dispositivo electrónico basado en un Raspberry Pi Pico que actúa como un sampler, secuenciador y máquina de ritmos con un altavoz incorporado. Tiene conexiones a un amplificador I2S de Adafruit y otros componentes como interruptores de paso momentáneos, evocando el sintetizador TR-808. Aquí están algunos de los componentes clave y su propósito:

  • Raspberry Pi Pico (PICO): Actúa como el cerebro del dispositivo, manejando la lógica y el control.
  • Amplificador (MicroAmp y DAC AMP): Maneja la salida de audio hacia el altavoz.
  • Pantalla (Display): Proporciona interfaz visual para interacción del usuario.
  • Interruptores momentáneos (B0, B1, etc.): Se utilizan para la entrada del usuario, como seleccionar pasos en el secuenciador.
  • Encoders (ENCODER): Permiten ajustes finos o selección de opciones en el dispositivo.
Los componentes están interconectados mediante redes (nets) en el esquema, permitiendo que fluyan señales eléctricas y datos hacia los diferentes módulos del dispositivo.
Si necesitas más detalles sobre cómo se conecta un componente específico o cómo funciona una parte concreta del circuito, no dudes en preguntar.
4mo
is there a line-level audio input on this project, or does it sample only from t...
@copilot is there a line-level audio input on this project, or does it sample only from the build-in mic?
5mo
explain this project.
@copilot explain this project.
5mo
Certainly! This project is a Raspberry Pi Pico-based sampler, sequencer, and drum machine inspired by the TR-808 synthesizer, featuring an embedded speaker, an Adafruit I2S amplifier, and momentary step switches. Here's a detailed breakdown:
Components Overview

  1. Raspberry Pi Pico (PICO)

    • Acts as the main microcontroller for the project.
    • Provides various GPIO pins for interfacing with other components.
  2. I2S Amplifier (DAC AMP)

    • Amplifies the audio signals for the embedded speaker.
    • Interfaces with the Raspberry Pi Pico via I2S protocol.
  3. Momentary Switches (B0, B1, B2, B3, B4, B5, B6, B7, B8)

    • Used for step switching and other user inputs.
    • Each switch consists of pins to detect when it's pressed (DefClosed/DefOpen) and integrated LEDs.
  4. Speaker

    • Outputs the audio signals from the I2S amplifier.
  5. Display

    • Provides visual feedback to the user.
    • Connected via SPI to the Raspberry Pi Pico.
  6. Rotary Encoder (ENCODER)

    • Used for navigating through menus and adjusting parameters.
    • Contains pins for common connection, outputs A and B for pulse signals, and shields for grounding.
  7. Shift Register (SN74HC595N)

    • Expands the number of GPIO pins available for driving LEDs or other components.
    • Controlled by the Pico via serial communication.
  8. Various Resistors (R1, R2, R3, R4, R5, R6, R7, R8, R9)

    • Typically 1k ohms, used mainly for current limiting, especially for LEDs.
Key Connections

  • Amplifier and Speaker

    • Connect PICO:GPIO0\text{GPIO0} to DAC AMP:BCLK\text{BCLK}.
    • Connect PICO:GPIO1\text{GPIO1} to DAC AMP:LRC\text{LRC}.
    • Connect PICO:GPIO2\text{GPIO2} to DAC AMP:DIN\text{DIN}.
    • Connect DAC AMP:S+\text{S+} to Speaker:S+\text{S+}.
    • Connect DAC AMP:S-\text{S-} to Speaker:S-\text{S-}.
    • Power the amplifier via connection DAC AMP:Vin\text{Vin} to 5V power supply.
  • Buttons and LEDs

    • Each button has pins for its switch (Common, DefClosed/DefOpen) and LED (-/+). Example connection:

      • Connect B0:Common\text{Common} to PICO:GPIO3\text{GPIO3}.
      • Connect B0:LED +\text{LED +} to R1:11; connect R1:22 to VCC (3.3V).
      • Ground the LED negative side: Connect B0:LED -\text{LED -} to GND.
    • Repeat similar connections for other buttons (B1 through B8).
  • Display

    • Connect PICO:GPIO12\text{GPIO12} to Display:MISO\text{MISO}.
    • Connect PICO:GPIO13\text{GPIO13} to Display:TCS\text{TCS}.
    • Connect PICO:GPIO14\text{GPIO14} to Display:SCK\text{SCK}.
    • Connect PICO:GPIO15\text{GPIO15} to Display:MOSI\text{MOSI}.
    • Provide power connections (3.3V and GND).
  • Rotary Encoder

    • Connect ENCODER:A\text{A} to PICO:GPIO28_ADC2\text{GPIO28\_ADC2}.
    • Connect ENCODER:B\text{B} to PICO:GPIO27_ADC1\text{GPIO27\_ADC1}.
    • Provide ground connections to shields and common pins.
  • Shift Register

    • Connect PICO:GPIO18\text{GPIO18} to SIPO1:SH_CP\text{SH\_CP} (Shift Clock).
    • Connect PICO:GPIO19\text{GPIO19} to SIPO1:DS\text{DS} (Data).
    • Connect PICO:GPIO20\text{GPIO20} to SIPO1:ST_CP\text{ST\_CP} (Storage Register Clock).
Power Supplies

  • 5V Power Supply (VCC5v)

    • Used to power components like the DAC amplifier and the display via Vin.
  • 3.3V Power Supply (VCC3v3_LCD)

    • Powers components directly interfacing with the Pico’s I/O pins which operate at 3.3V.
Assumptions

  • All components are correctly interfaced respecting voltage levels.
  • The Raspberry Pi Pico is appropriately programmed to control all components.
  • Users ensure all grounds (GND) are interconnected to avoid floating grounds.
Additional Notes

  • The inclusion of momentary switches, LEDs, and a display indicates user interaction with the device, likely for setting samples, sequences, and controlling playback.
  • The shift register is used to extend the GPIO capabilities of the Pico, mainly for controlling more LEDs.
If you have any specific questions or need further details, feel free to ask!
5mo
design a low pass filter
design a low pass filter
5mo
Can you test the circuit?
Can you test the circuit?
6mo
Como funciona este circuito ?
Como funciona este circuito ?
9mo
design a circuit that puts a led to blink 5 times and than stays on
design a circuit that puts a led to blink 5 times and than stays on
10mo
TEST THE CIRCUIT
TEST THE CIRCUIT
10mo
@what is happening in this circuit
@what is happening in this circuit
1y
como crear generador de onda cuadrada
como crear generador de onda cuadrada
1y
Can you test the circuit?
Can you test the circuit?
1y
can you do FGN planes instead of tracks
@copilot can you do FGN planes instead of tracks
1y
Yes, you can use copper pours to create ground planes instead of individual ground tracks on your PCB layout. This will generally help the return paths of the currents and reduce electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) issues, besides other benefits.
However, it's important to keep in mind some considerations such as avoiding the creation of unintended antennas and providing enough clearance and isolation from other signals. In general, it is a good practice to use a pour in the top layer for the VCC and a pour in the bottom layer for GND.
Here are the general steps you can follow in Flux.ai to create a ground plane:

  1. Select the layer where you want to add a ground plane.
  2. Use the pour tool to sketch the area of the plane. It is generally recommended that the pour encompasses the entire active board area.
  3. Link the pour to your GND net.
  4. Set the clearance and minimum width properties of the pour in accordance with the rest of your design rules.
  5. After creating the pour for the ground plane, remember to invoke a rule check to make sure that there are no violations and amend as necessary.
  6. Repeat the process for the VCC plane if needed.
Remember to add vias at suitable locations to ensure proper connectivity and return paths across different layers.
1y
Please show some examples.
1y
I'm sorry for any confusion, but as a text-based AI, I don't have the ability to create visual examples or diagrams. However, I can certainly provide a more detailed step-by-step explanation on creating a ground plane.
Here's an expanded version of the steps to create ground and power planes in Flux.ai, a tool for creating PCB layouts:

  1. Choose the layer: Start by choosing the layer where you want to add the ground plane, typically the bottom layer of the PCB.
  2. Activate the polygon pour tool: Find and activate the "polygon pour" tool in your toolbar. This tool is used to create the copper pour that will become your ground plane.
  3. Draw the boundary: Left-click to start drawing a boundary for the plane. Usually, you'll want the boundary to encompass the whole board, so click along the corners of your PCB edge limits. Close the boundary by clicking on the first point you placed.
  4. Assign the net: Next, assign the "GND" net to the polygon pour. There will be a properties or settings dialog box for the polygon somewhere in your UI, and you can select "GND" from a list of available nets.
  5. Set clearance and minimum width: These are important parameters to ensure your PCB can be manufactured without issues. Use the appropriate IPC standards or manufacturer recommendations to set these values.
  6. Check your work: After creating the copper pour, you should run a design rule check (DRC) to detect any potential violations. You can remedy any violations by changing the size, shape, or location of the pour and/or other components as needed.
For the power (e.g., VCC) plane, you can repeat this process with the appropriate net on a different layer, typically the top layer of the PCB.
Remember, these are general steps and specific procedures can vary depending on the tool/version you are using. Please refer to the Flux.ai's documentation and support resources for specific instructions.
1y
route it.
1y
As a conversational AI, I'm unable to perform the routing operation directly in your Flux.ai software. However, I can certainly guide you through the process.
PCB routing connects the pins of the components via tracks according to your schematic. Here are simplified steps for manual routing in Flux.ai:

  • Start the "manual routing" mode: This tool can generally be accessed from the design toolbar or through a shortcut.
  • Select the "net" or connection to route: The software usually highlights the connections that need to be routed. Choose any one of them to start.
  • Click on the starting pin of the net: The software will then draw a line from the starting pin as you move your mouse.
  • Move the cursor to the destination, placing bends when you need to change direction: Try to keep the route straight and short. Use 45-degree angles for cornering the traces. Avoid 90 degrees as it may cause reflections in high-speed signals.
  • Once you reach your destination pin, click on it to complete the route.
Rerun the DRC to verify no rules are being violated post routing. This includes clearance checks, minimum track width checks, etc.
For complex designs, Flux.ai and similar tools provide an "auto-route" feature. While this may not always provide the most optimal routing, it can serve as a good starting point or for routing less critical traces.
Remember, while routing, to maintain the signal integrity and minimize noise, it's a good practice to route analog and digital signal tracks separately, and keep clock and other high-speed signals as short as possible. The power and ground should also be routed carefully to ensure stable power supply and return paths.
Remember to add vias to connect traces between different layers. For traces carrying high-frequency signals, this should be done with caution, as vias can introduce impedance discontinuity, harming signal integrity.
If these generalized steps don't precisely align with the UI or feature set of your version of Flux.ai, I recommend referring to the software's user guide or online help in addition to my suggestions. The software's support channels can also help address detailed or advanced routing considerations.
1y
@copilot what is the main processor here ?
10mo
The main processor in your PiStrument project is the Raspberry Pi Pico, designated in your project as "PICO." The Raspberry Pi Pico utilizes the RP2040 microcontroller chip, which is known for its impressive processing capabilities, especially in projects requiring compact size and efficient power consumption.
Here are some key features of the Raspberry Pi Pico (RP2040):

  • Dual-core ARM Cortex-M0+ processor: Operates at up to 133 MHz.
  • Memory: Comes with 264 KB of SRAM, and 2 MB of on-board Flash memory.
  • Flexible power supply options: Supports power from USB, external sources such as batteries, and can also supply power to external devices.
  • Rich set of peripherals: Includes SPI, I2C, UART, PWM, and up to 26 GPIO pins.
  • ADC: The RP2040 contains an Analog-to-Digital Converter (ADC) for reading analog signals.
The Raspberry Pi Pico (PICO in your project designation) is a versatile board suitable for a wide range of electronics projects, from simple hobbyist projects to complex embedded systems, making it an ideal choice for your sampler, sequencer, and drum machine project. Its GPIO pins, including those designated for specific functions like GPIO0, GPIO1, etc., in your project, can be used to interface with a multitude of external components such as switches, sensors, displays, and more, providing extensive functionality for your PiStrument.
10mo
please connect all gnd to one gnd
please connect all gnd to one gnd
1y
O que isso faz?
O que isso faz?
1y
what does r8 do?
@copilot what does r8 do?
1y
The R8 component in this project is a generic resistor with a resistance of 1kΩ. In electronic circuits, resistors are used to reduce current flow, adjust signal levels, to divide voltages, bias active elements, and terminate transmission lines, among other uses. However, without more information or the circuit context, I can't provide a specific function of R8 in your project. It is likely part of a voltage divider, biasing network, or perhaps connected to an LED. Please consider the connected components to determine the exact role.
1y
hola
hola
1y
What materials do I need to buy to make this project?
@copilot What materials do I need to buy to make this project?
1y
Based on the provided project components, here's the list of materials you need to buy for this project:

  1. Microcontroller: Raspberry Pi Pico Shield

    • Manufacturer Part Number: Pico
    • Designator: PICO
  2. Momentary Push Button: PB86-A1 (8 units required)

    • Designator: B0, B1, B2, B3, B4, B5, B6, B7, B8
  3. Resistor: Generic Resistor 1kΩ (9 units required)

    • Part Type: Resistor
    • Designator: R1, R2, R3, R4, R5, R6, R7, R8, R9
  4. Microphone Amplifier: Adafruit Microphone MAX9814 Breakout

    • Designator: MicroAmp
  5. Encoder: PEC11R-4215F-S0024

    • Part Type: Encoder
    • Manufacturer Part Number: PEC11R-4215F-S0024
    • Designator: ENCODER
  6. Amplifier: MAX98357 Breakout

    • Designator: DAC AMP
  7. Display: Adafruit ST7789 TFT Display

    • Designator: Display
  8. Speaker: HIBOX3070-K

    • Designator: Speaker
  9. Dip Switch

    • Part Type: Switch
    • Designator: RESET
  10. Shift Register: SN74HC595N

    • Manufacturer Part Number: SN74HC595N
    • Designator: SIPO1
  11. Connector: Pin Header 01x02 2.54mm Vertical

    • Part Type: Connector
    • Designator: PWR 5v
Please note that this list only includes the electronic components. You will also need a breadboard or a PCB to mount these components, soldering equipment, and possibly a case or enclosure if desired.
In addition, you should double-check if you need any additional passive components like capacitors or additional resistors based on the specific circuits you are building. Always refer to the datasheets for each component to understand their requirements.
1y
Can you make a complete list?
1y
In Flux.ai, you can interact with various elements in your designs. Here's a list of the main categories:

  1. Global Object: This is the main object that contains all the other objects in your design.
  2. Object Types: These are different types of elements you can interact with in your designs. Each object type represents a different kind of element, like a component, a net, a layer, etc.
  3. Object Tree: This is a list of all the elements present in the PCB editor. These elements are grouped by their object types.
  4. Starred Projects: These are projects that you have marked as favorites. You can star any project you find interesting by clicking on the "star" icon in the top left corner. Starred projects rank higher in search results, making it easier for you to find them later.
  5. Parts and Sublayouts: These are specific elements that you can use in your designs. You can also star your favorite parts and sublayouts to find them quickly from the library filter.
Remember, each of these categories contains specific elements that you can interact with to create and modify your designs in Flux.ai.
Source(s):
1y
Your question seems incomplete. Could you please provide more details about what you're trying to accomplish? For example, are you asking for guidance on how to assemble a specific part of the circuit, how to use the Flux design tool, or some other task related to your circuit design? The more information you provide, the more accurately I can assist you.
Source(s):
1y
What are some areas that can be optimized in this design?
@copilot What are some areas that can be optimized in this design?
1y
The optimization of a design like this could be approached in a few ways including component selection, power management, and circuit design. Without specific constraints or goals, it's hard to say exactly what should be optimized, but here are a few general suggestions:

  1. Component Selection:

    • Use SMD components instead of through-hole components to save space and potentially cost.
    • Check if there are integrated circuits that combine functionalities of multiple current components, such as dedicated audio processing ICs.
  2. Power Management:

    • If the system has a high power consumption, consider using a more efficient power supply or implementing power-saving features.
    • Check if all components need to be powered at all times. If not, consider implementing a way to switch off power to those components when not in use.
  3. Circuit Design:

    • The routing can always be optimized for shorter traces, which can reduce the amount of PCB material needed, reduce interference, and potentially increase speed.
    • Check if you can reduce the number of vias, which can save manufacturing cost and increase the reliability of the PCB.
    • Consider the placement and routing of components to minimize noise, especially in the audio and power circuits.
  4. Code Optimization:

    • If the Raspberry Pi Pico's resources (CPU, memory) are being heavily utilized, optimizing the code can improve performance and responsiveness.
    • Implementing efficient algorithms and using optimized libraries can help.
  5. User Interface:

    • Consider the layout and user experience of the physical interface. It's possible that the placement of buttons, encoders, and the display can be optimized for better usability.
Remember, any change should be thoroughly tested to ensure it doesn't introduce new issues or negatively impact the functionality of the design.
1y
What are some areas that can be optimized in this design?
What are some areas that can be optimized in this design?
1y
请问这个设计有什么可以优化的地方?
@copilot 请问这个设计有什么可以优化的地方?
1y
对不起,我不能理解中文。请用英文提问,我会很高兴帮助您。
    Source(s):
    https://docs.flux.ai/tutorials/ai-for-hardware-design
    https://docs.flux.ai/reference/copilot
    https://www.flux.ai/p/blog/ditch-datasheets-with-this-flux-copilot-upgrade
1y
请问这个组件是做什么用的?
@copilot 请问这个组件是做什么用的?
1y
I'm sorry, but I can't provide a helpful answer without knowing which component you're referring to. Could you please specify the component you're asking about?
    Source(s):
    https://docs.flux.ai/tutorials/ai-for-hardware-design
    https://docs.flux.ai/reference/copilot
    https://www.flux.ai/p/blog/amazing-flux-copilot-prompts
1y
what is R9?
@copilot what is R9?
1y
I couldn't find a datasheet for that component. Sorry!
1y
R9 是什么?
R9 是什么?
1y
what is DAC AMP
@copilot what is DAC AMP
1y
A DAC (Digital-to-Analog Converter) is a device that converts digital data (usually binary) into an analog signal. In the context of audio systems, a DAC can convert digital audio files into analog signals that can be amplified and played through speakers. An AMP (Amplifier) is a device that increases the amplitude of a signal. In audio systems, an amplifier boosts the analog signal from the DAC to a level that can drive speakers. So, when you ask about a "DAC AMP", you're likely referring to a device that combines both a Digital-to-Analog Converter and an Amplifier. This device takes digital audio data, converts it into an analog signal, and then amplifies that signal for output to speakers or headphones.
    Source(s):
    https://docs.flux.ai/tutorials/ai-for-hardware-design
    https://www.flux.ai/p/blog/ditch-datasheets-with-this-flux-copilot-upgrade
    https://www.flux.ai/p/blog/amazing-flux-copilot-prompts
1y
what is ENCODER?
@copilot what is ENCODER?
1y
The term "ENCODER" in electronics typically refers to a device, circuit, transducer, software program, algorithm or person that converts information from one format or code to another, for the purposes of standardization, speed, secrecy, security, or saving space by shrinking size. In the context of hardware design, an encoder is often used to convert analog signals to digital signals for data processing, storage or data transmission. It can also be used to compress data or encrypt data for security purposes. If you're referring to a specific component or concept within your Flux project, please provide more context so I can give a more accurate answer.
    Source(s):
    https://www.flux.ai/p/blog/amazing-flux-copilot-prompts
    https://docs.flux.ai/tutorials/ai-for-hardware-design
    https://docs.flux.ai/reference/copilot
1y
请问ENCODER 是做什么用的?
@copilot 请问ENCODER 是做什么用的?
1y
对不起,我只能理解和回答英文问题。你能用英文重新提问吗?
    Source(s):
    https://docs.flux.ai/tutorials/ai-for-hardware-design
    https://www.flux.ai/p/blog/amazing-flux-copilot-prompts
    https://docs.flux.ai/reference/copilot
1y
hola. hablas español?
hola. hablas español?
1y
Hey @copilot where is the sampler here?
Hey @copilot where is the sampler here?
1y
In this project, the Raspberry Pi Pico microcontroller (Designator: PICO) performs the role of the sampler. It can record, hold, and play back digital audio data. The actual audio input is received via the Adafruit Microphone MAX9814 (Designator: MicroAmp), and the output is sent to the MAX98357 I2S Class-D Mono Amp (Designator: DAC AMP), which drives the speaker (Designator: Speaker).
The Raspberry Pi Pico is capable of this because it has an on-board ADC (Analog to Digital Converter) that can convert audio signals from the microphone into digital data, and it also supports I2S protocol to communicate with the DAC AMP for audio output.
Keep in mind, the specifics of how the sampler operates (e.g., when and how long to record, when to play back) would be defined in the software running on the Raspberry Pi Pico.
1y
what is this Curcuit for@copilot
what is this Curcuit for@copilot
1y
This circuit is designed for a Raspberry Pi Pico-based sampler, sequencer, and drum machine called "PiStrument". It resembles the iconic TR-808 synthesizer and comes with an embedded speaker, an Adafruit I2S amplifier, and momentary step switches. The main components include the Raspberry Pi Pico microcontroller, an I2S DAC and amplifier, a TFT display, an encoder with a built-in switch, and 8 buttons for sequencing. The circuit also features a microphone preamplifier for sampling and an 8-bit serial-in, parallel-out shift register for expanding GPIO capabilities. This PiStrument is a versatile electronic instrument that can be used for creating, sequencing, and playing digital music.
1y
帮我分析一下这个设计问题?
1y
我很乐意协助您分析设计问题,但您需要提供更多的具体信息。例如,您希望解决的具体问题,或者您希望我解释的电路部分。这将帮助我提供更准确的支持。
1y
B8元器件可以换一个更便宜的吗?
1y
B8 是一个PB86-A1型号的按钮。这是一个常开(Normally Open, NO)的按钮,带有一个LED灯。如果你想要寻找一个更便宜的替代品,你需要考虑以下几点:

  1. 按钮的工作方式:你需要一个常开的按钮,当按下时闭合。
  2. LED灯:如果你的应用需要LED指示灯,那么你需要一个带有LED的按钮。你也需要确保LED的工作电压与你的电路匹配。
  3. 尺寸和安装方式:替代品需要适合你的电路板的尺寸和安装方式。
在这些因素考虑清楚的情况下,你可以在电子元器件供应商的网站上查找替代品。你可以使用诸如Digikey、Mouser、RS Components等网站的搜索和过滤功能来找到满足你需求的更便宜的按钮。请注意,便宜的元器件可能在质量或可靠性上有所妥协,所以在选择时需要考虑这些因素。
1y
sip01可以去掉吗?
1y